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no i doubt the bills would remain with the 3rd pick, although it would be nice. so hypothetically, the lock out lasts untill week 11. That only leaves 6 games on the schedule, division only, bills go 1-5, pick 1st. boom. i know rooting for losses is never good, and i have always been adimitly against it, even at our worst moments, for a draft pick. but any result in that year would be with an astrisk, so eff it, if there is ever a time to play for picks, it is a year that doesnt even count. just a thought?

i understand the juco is common for college athletes, but you dont draft somebody in the 1st round of the nfl draft, and use juco as evidence. this is neither pro nor anti newton, just something that drives me crazy with the talk about him.

agreed. i also dont understand the need to play now argument. are we this great team, that with the addition of somekey draft pick suddenly be excellent. i am not saying this is the case, but say you have the opportunity to draft your franchise qb for the next 10 years, but he has to sit on the bench for a few seasons. you are telling me you pass because he isnt playing immediately on a bad team

they will be figuring out if newton is coachable and can learn the nfl game. if they think he can, he will be the pick. i am not sure i would agree with it, but if it happends i HOPE he sits on the bench for 2-3 years and learns. too many good prospects are not groomed properly and fail. because of his upside would rather have cam then von miller. as somebody said before, I hope they either go DL or id a franchise qb. anything else will be a waste

i have no idea, but wasnt trent edwards the last qb at stanford, where he had something like 8 wins during his 3 years as the starter. stanford was awful for a while. mizzou was the better choice at the time. it was not until harbough that that program turned

part of the problem is in college since it is common for alot of players to have been HS QBs because they are their teams best athletes

You are missing the point. You have to go back further. By looking at only NFL results you are lacking where those results. The NFL results are a results of all the steps to get there. I think the problem becomes, why arent more black people playing QB in general. IE why are white kids targeted in HS so play QB rather than black kids. It is not like kids go through a stringent selection process to play a possision, they are merely benifactors in opportunity given to them. Also the next step after that is, I know Highschool football is all about putting your biggest playmaker in the largest role possible, just like Naaman at St. Joes. The question now becomes, well out of the black HS QB's, how many of them are not allowed to play QB. Why was Naaman not considered to play QB anywhere in the country and was strictly a DB prospect, and how often does that happen. I could ramble on about all the specific examples and steps, but the point being that thoughts similar to yours are either consciencly or sub consciecly making these decisions. Without more opportunity to succeed, there is only data influenced by generations of racism to debate from. So currently, no is it racist to say that currently only white QBs seem to find elite success in the NFL, those are the facts, it would be racist to venture further to say that only QB's have the tools to ever be successful. I would say that the reason you don't see so many successful black QB's in the NFL is racism

good idea, a thread all about newton. i am so glad somebody created a thread that is all newton all the time

seems like an easier schedule than normal. is that quinns doing. pitt is never bad, and tenessee has quite the history, but there where years i remember us playing a highly ranked mizzo team, a high ranked rutgers, penn state, and notre dame. is this in an effort to win more game while taking the hit(both financially and visiblity) of not playing high profile teams

Watch the Bills grab him now. HAHA also i thought that when i saw him in an interview. he came across a bit as a user, not like marshawn/ricky pot stuff, but like he may like cocaine or heroin. totally unjustified, but thats the way i thought he carried himself.

so what youre saying is a lockout would be best

god...good thing none of you guys are the s&c coaches. core is maybe the most important part of the body when it comes to athletics, stabilization, coordination, and maximum physical output are all linked to core strength. also alot of injuries can be traced back to core issues. it actually shows pretty good insight into the body and strength, id be willing to bet that if more athletes took a page from troupe you would see less injury at 1 bills drive

Just a thought...Looking at maybe the best recent model of QB progression in the NFL, Aaron Rogers sat behind Favre for 3-4 years. So parlay that to the Bills if they where to draft Newton. Assuming the team continues to get better under Fitzy, the young line is meshing, we help shore up the D, and our young recievers keep improving, one would assume the job would be Fitzy's to lose. Question is, how does Cam react to being the back up for 3-4 years? Trouble, demand trades? I am not saying definetly, but with the media hype this kid is getting and his college successes he may whine a bit

The kid scares me at 3. too many questions, he could be a flop. I watched only a few of his games, and didnt see an NFL QB in him. I saw a guy who sits in shotgun, gets time, and still can't make a decision its either pass immediately run immediately. I saw him misfire in multiple occasions when recievers had the defenders beat, and saw him run in situations that where recievers where open in NFL standards. The kid didnt seem to put the ball "on the money" too often either. Those things scare the sh*t out of me. With that his physical ability intrigues me, and even though I am not comfortable with him as of yet, I DO NOT want him in the division given his upside.

i will say the salary is getting a little out of control league wide, especialy for rookies. at the same time the league and owners need to do a better job with taking care of retired or older players. I would propose, taking a page from the NBA. Contracts are binding. If owners have to pay the remaining contracts of players they cut, you will see a decrease in contract value. At the same time players will be garunteed money. Also you would most likely see more incentive based contracts, thus upping play. With that there should be a greater investment in players of old. Garunteed health care for tenured NFL vets post playing days. Also some retiree's are getting as little as 15k per year post NFL. pay respects to the people that paved the way. In terms of protecting players, I would say Richardson has a good point(poor delivery). What does Manning know about player safety, QB's are treated like porcelain. With that I would say that other positions are left by the wayside. Why not make those concussion helmets mandatory, Aaron Rogers had 2 concussions in 1 season, Christ! The fact is with everyteam seeming to run some sort of spread offense, and the NFL becoming a pass happy league, you are going to see a high rate of injury. QB play needs to be less proficient to run, leading recievers into bad situations, as well as giving defenders a larger run at the reciever. Hell QB's dropping back 40-50 times a game sometimes, you are going to see them go down. As far as lengthening the season, I am unsure, I understand the importance of the preseason for guys at the bottom of the roster from a coaching standpoint, but also understand the wear and tear of a longer season. I am fine with it the way it is, of course I would like to see more games, but its not a make or break. If they go longer, they need to increase roster size. Extra One: I would like to see coaching staff included in a salary cap.

that means it wont happen. carucci is consistently wrong about all things buffalo. when he says left the bills go right. no to cam at 3!

Yup i went to a couple of big schools(granted not for football)for official visits. I went to one school that put together a womens team for the sole purpose of using it to recruit their mens program. Hell I live and train at an Olympic Training Center and have pretty nice facilities, alot of the same stuff, just not nearly that much space, or amount of it.

COMPLETELY DISAGREE. Marino was all about Marino, never would have given the ball to Emmet or Thurman. Superbowl 26(I think), Jimbo did the same thing, determined to win the game all by himself. The guy tossed the ball something like 50 times and 4 ints. Would have been worse with that whore Marino back there

I am going to get blown up on here for this, but eff it. Well the pledge of allegiance worked well on you. I am sure at 8 the purpose of you saying the pledge in class was because you felt so compelled to give your gratification to a country you couldnt even understand yet. Singing the National Anthem before sporting events, adn the Pledge in 3rd grade are all attempts at creating a blinding nationalism from a very young age. While I agree there should be times when we show pride, support, and allegiance towards our country, lets get off of our high horse and take into account the origin behind its ritual. While I didnt think the anthem was particularly great, I would never go out to say that she did anything to pay a purposeful disrespect to the country. We are a nation founded because of who we are and because we have our own personal beliefs. We forget that alot. Me, Aguilara, or yourself can take the country and the song and the pledge and turn it into what ever it means to us. This love it or leave it seems so mideival to me. Infact it seems far less patriotic, being that our individualaity and freedom is what this country is founded on. EXTRA ONE: To who ever made the Idol comment. I know ivy league educated profesionals and doctors at the highest level of their fields who watch American Idol for entertainment. It must be hard work being so serious and patriotic all the time. I HATE AMERICAN IDOL

just a thought, what if the home teams announcers got to do the superbowl. so whoever announces in gb would be on fox. i am sure the networks would never allow it given they pay mucho bucks...just a cool idea i guess. all though the last thing i want to here is some annoying boston accent when the pats make it again

well he cant root for pitt, or there would be a topic entitled president supports rape, he also i am sure doesnt want gb to win as a chicago guy. benifit of the doubt

What happends when our entire recieving corps is off of IR next year. He is not very tall, and not very quick, and not that big/strong. He will be back on the practice squad at least for next year. Starks is the better hometown hero, and would have been a 3rd round pick or so if it werent for injury

they are good we are bad

he won the nfc championship game

Looking at the league trend. bad teams seem to be grasping at straws. bills offering guys 10mil for gm/coaching rolls(shanahan). finding coaches with some success and giving them the keys to the castle(holmgren/marv)as gm's. these teams seem to be worse than they started. i dont get it. the bills may or may not have made the right actual hires with nix and gailey, but not handing the team to shanahan was maybe the best move. side point, it seems that teams who bring in ex-superstars seem to flounder as well. i believe elway is meddling in denver and marino tried in the early 2000's and they collapsed. maybe keep jimbo atleast arms length away?