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In another thread it was pointed out that our d sees the most plays in the NFL. I think the largest culprit on the D is the inability to sustain drives or score points regularly.

If Tampa waited a week they may have gotten something pretty solid for Freeman

He's not talking about the QB's. He is saying the front office and coaching staff don't know what they are doing, and that the team is competitive. I was just talking about this today, if you count Fitzy since he wasn't cut before the deadline, we have had 7 QB's on the team this year. I assume that is an NFL record.

We are carrying 5! (Plus Kolb, but he's on IR, no roster spot) EJ, Tuel, Flynn, Lewis, Dixon. I don't get it, the fact that we signed 3 QB's in a week means the staff isn't confident enough in his abilities. This goes beyond due dilligence, and makes no sense as to why we have so many. Lose Tuel, then cut one more when EJ comes back.

He's been the stability in what has been a turbulent calendar year. He has lost a step, I am grateful he is on the team. He has been our best running back. This is a testament to how good FJ has been in the past. If we lost Fred in the next week or two we would eliminate what little chances we have at winning a football game without a QB

I was thinking the same thing. Any Given Sunday, except we don't have a stud third string QB, HoF coach, and never get good I just think of Bills fans being like Al Pacino yelling at the front office/ Cameron Diaz about how things used to be.

Let me say this....I love EJ. I understood he was a project with as much upside as any other QB class, just less polish. Which can be a coin flip. I will say if you are picking top 5, because of lack of QB play (even injury), and you are staring down the barrel at a top prospect, you pull the trigger.

i trust your sincerity, but you cover your bases with the MRI. If EJ plays next week, never answer a text from your source again. No way a work up by a doctor or PT would be so radically off from an MRI....God I hope your'e wrong

They should sign Leinart, Young, or Freeman regardless of injury. Push Tuel to the PS. We can cut him pretty safely and resign him.

Stevie has been unimpressive thus far. I didn't really miss him. Stevie off the field allows EJ, I think, to find Woods a little more. Woods best plays where a couple of plays where the ball was uncatchable and he played the DB. Through a couple to the ground pretty hard. I was really impressed with him today.

They ran the ball like crazy. Tuel was something like 1 for 7 at one point for 6 yards. We ran for 3 straight series because he couldn't throw the ball near a receiver. I am not sure what you are talking about. It was this stretch of play calling that made the most sense. If we want to complain about play calling, lets start talking about why EJ was rarely behind center this week, or why we play zero press coverage? Those are the head scratchers. I think it is safe to say at this point we could cut Tuel and sneak him onto the practice squad where he belongs.

I think people are wishing Chan back as HC, or Chan vs. Marrone. I think the issue is see a lot more talent on the offensive side of the roster, and fans are looking for success. Chan is a better OC than Hackett so far. He failed at HC and nobody is debating that. This offensice roster with Chan instead of Hackett would be much better. For the first time we have Gaey type players but no Galey. I think that is the point.

She's hot because she has the meat sweats

I didn't have as big of an issue with the second fumble. That ball was jarred loose from the fake handoff, and hitting choice in the gut. The first one was more than frustrating

I thought this was easily EJ's best game. The one int was all on Stevie. That pass hit him right in the hands. EJ's biggest enemy today was his WR's. Lee Smitg falling, Woods with a key drop or two/foot placement, Chandler missing his feet, and everything that Steve Johnson did. The inverse is, I think today might have been SJ's worst game of his career.

I thought that EJ played the best game of his career thus far today. He made great decisions and some really well thrown balls. I wish he could have back that first possession where he had SJ open on the 3ish. We had to settle or a field goal. EJ didn't see him make the break. He hung in the pocket and got some big gains with his feet too. Stevie killed us today. It was more tha just being taken out of the game by the defense. Killed a big run from EJ, and somehow forced a turnover on offense. There was another key drop or two. He looked more rookie than our rookies.These are mental lapses. I really liked the coachin and play calling in the first. More seems, slants, and timing routes. We dd poorly at making adjustments through the half. I asked for peoples heads last week if they didn't improves. I must give credit where it is due. Not happy with the second half. Although a lt of the issues on offense where on te WR's

Stevie had the worst game as a whole I have eve seen him play. He was our biggest drive killer. Coaching improvements where good in the first half, eh in the second half. I thought Manuel played his best game today by far The stat line is hidden by some key Stevie mistakes, Woods drops, and a Lee Smith trip. Can't excuse that fumble

scheming/coaching. we arent getting out worked, we are getting out smarted

It doesn't matter what package the team was running when Brooks got hurt, Mckelvin moved over and Brooks moved to Mckelvins position. Rogers replaced Brooks, then Mckelvin. Rogers was our 4th corner. We are missing our top 3.

I don't mean to start this, but it is Whaley who let the depth walk on this oline. The d line rotation is fine.

I'm sorry, but that 4th and 10 play call is horrible. 2 go's and an in route? No confusion in alignment. Joe b calling Stevie, a relatively slow Wr, open with the safety in his pocket is a joke. To me the article and the photos showed exactly what cbs showed. Manuel is going to miss reads and receivers, but this is literally pop Warner play calling. Seriously I ran this play in pop warner.

Why not spread the field out and take some pressure off the middle of the field? Then CJ can run it up the middle. Please Hackett just watch one game film from last year. Just ignore every time brad smith is behind center

Gannon pointed out a bunch of times that nobody is getting open. It looked like we just keep running for hook routes or 3 and a go route. The jets beat us by playing man, period. They did a bit of confusion at the line stacking everybody, but they made it simple, for their own players, cover your guy. We did nothing to confuse the D, no routes to beat the coverage. I don't give Manuel a free pass because he missed a lot of opportunities, I blame him for the misfires. I think out WR where not good. Gannon was pretty unhappy about they way they ran all their sideline routes. All signs seem to point to coaching.

I don't like the bs in giving an OC a pass because he is a rookie. Athletes progress, they age, and they mature. Hiring somebody to run your offense who is not yet prepared for the job is a lot different than a 22 year old out of college. I will curb my judgement until later, but Marrone will sink or swim on this hire. Right now it doesn't look good. I think we will be yet another franchise that looks back and wishes we kept Chan around. Last years offensive scheming with this years defense would be 2-1 if not 3-0. Nobody can watch these last 3 games and difinitively say we have upgraded the coaching staff as a whole. Marrone seems to be decent at overseeing things, but this offense is destroying this team.

The left side of the line got worked today. Brown is not an excuse for a total lack of production from Spiller. We almost exclusively run away from Brown. Spiller losing 5 instead of gaining 2 is all on him not this OL. Those guys aren't helping CJ, but he is making them look twice as bad. Scheming is an issue. Chan was great at scheming Spiller into space. I am going to say it. Flame away if you will, not trolling. This roster with Pettine at DC and Chan at the helm with the offense would be in a much better place. We seriously miss his scheming. EJ with some of those timing routes in the spread with his arm, plus Spiller in space would be nuts