Mango

It seems as though the Bills have a long history of making moves simply to placate fans.

Agreed on all accounts. I would be comfortable with Barkley in the 1st just because of his history and prior draft status. Guys like that generally don't waiver that far in skill year to year to drop him out of the first. It doesn't mean that the shoulder issue isn't a concern, and he still has the arm to make the throws. The rest scare the crap out of me with huge bust potential as well as huge boom potential. I am not sure Barkley will be the best in the class, but he is most worthy of a top pick.

I wish him the best on his road to getting back into football. It would be quite the story if he could get back to a roster and even start a few games. Hate to be a cynic, but is Garcia's angle in all of this that he has this new training center, and if he can change Russell he can change anybody. What ever the motivation, if it works, I would hire Jeff Garcia to just follow Russell around and make sure he doesn't blow it again.

It is easy to get hooked on Landry's career, but there are some pretty large concerns. in fact similar concerns I think. I heard Pat Kirwan, former(i know former) GM, grade Nassib as a 3rd-4th at best, and would be lucky to become a career backup. Then some have him as the top prospect. McNabb said that people are willing to take a chance because nobody really knows what he is capable of, he is one large question mark, with some upside, and a little talent in a lot of places. Every QB scares me in this draft, and I am terrified of them all. If this is true, and Marrone hangs his first head NFL job on his questionable QB, then it will either make or break his career. He either has the ability to identify, find, and cultivate talent, or he doesn't. For this reason if I were Marrone I would stay away from Nassib, the risk of failure with that decision far out weighs the gains if he is successful I think.

I wouldn't be surprised if none of the QB needy teams grab one at their original pick let alone in the first. I am thinking the top 10 picks are looking for top 10 talent, and will look for QB's later on. Don't be surprised to see a lot of movement between those teams in the top of the 2nd and bottom of the 1st. I think a trade up to get ahead of those teams is pretty likely

I think the visits from multiple Tennessee players is more for getting a better read on Tyler Bray than anything else. The question is do they like Tyler Bray after meeting with his supporting cast.

Wanny was an enigma here in Buffalo. Obviously he did a poor to terrible job here, and deserved to be canned. What is weird is he was successful as a DC everywhere he went prior to Buffalo. I want to blame the guy, but as Bills fans are we looking at the roster through rose colored lenses, and it is really that bad. I prefer to blam Wanny, however his time here in Buffalo was puzzling.

odd. spiller has been a pretty large liability on passing downs. he has generally been terrible at even chipping a guy. i am curious if spiller has the ability to find the ability to find the blitzer but lacks the ability to do anything about it. i have always been a proponent of the idea that spiller's lack of touches are due to his ineffectiveness in pass protection, that with spiller in the backfield it limited our ability to change the play at the line.

You could make a strong arguement that Wannstead cost Gailey his job.

the problem with the Bills is that they haven't found enough quality in the 6th, your'e right

so far Kiper has the most reasonable draft spot for Nassib I have seen in a while

but then he won't be JR in Ann Arbor I don't want him to change it. As a guy who doesn't post that often but reads everyday, JR is everywhere, and I read and respect his posts regularly. He can't just become JR in Pittsburgh. Stay strong buddy Also at Jerome Bettis's(?) place the men's urinal is behind a one way mirror, that is behind the hostess stand. So while you watch people get seated, your junk is in your hand and you are looking right at them, which is kind of surreal.

So you're not in Ann Arbor

I read some stuff elsewhere about swapping with Tampa. I think that came from a Freeman thread, but not sure if that is viable without the trade. IF for some reason Tampa wanted to move up, for say Milliner, trade down with them for 2 2nds. Then if we could move down again with the Falcons for 2 1sts and 2 2nds. I would be all for it....I think? It is a tough spot because in theory by trading down you lose talent, and boy do we need talent. Also not for trading Byrd, as long as he is willing to sign an extension

Solid vets like Mario Williams

Nassib doesn't increase ticket sales GARAUNTEED, not to mention he would be there at 41

i have been thinking this way as well. wilson's toughness is tremendous, and it is hard to ignore the arm from glennon, epecially seeing a similar sized qb in flacco get the job done over the years. part of me is affraid to pick a qb at 8 because this team has been so bad that missing there would set us back once again

wore my sabres jersey to MSG. that was a little nuts. you get guys literally shouting and swearing 2 inches from your face

It all depends on whether he is willing to extend his contract. If he wants to play for a contender and is fed up with Buffalo, get some value. If he is willing to stay we would be stupid to not keep him If Byrd entered the draft this year he would be a top 5 or 10 pick. The bills would have to get that value in return. Easily a 1st and 2nd. How often to teams ever get a chance at a top player like Byrd off their first contract. Almost never.

that's the point. i think hackett and marrone where able to put together a good ncaa offense, with an unremarkable quarterback. coaching to hide flaws and exaggerate strengths.

Everybody on the show gets praised by Gruden, again, if they weren't nobody would go near the studio before the draft.

Tampa all day

until the 'nascar package' which seems to be a super hurry up single read option package, nassib is pretty unremarkable. this is good news for buffalo because we have an offensive coordinator who can scheme and take the pressure of the qb in reading defenses and putting the ball on point. our offense could develop some nice rhythm. the bad news is nassib is a product of the system

i came back to this board thinking this was still a nassib thread...guess not he looked terrible on gruden. sounded a little slow, lacked understanding. it's tough to look bad on that show considering gruden just lobs questions to these guys. in gruden's defense, he can't be critical or nobody would come back. manuel sounded like a stud for what it is worth.

what do they really have to tall about anyways? they have already gone over literally every game day decision he has ever made