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Technically it's not too late. His contract is pretty friendly to cut I think, but not friendly in cap dollars if I remember correctly

Hey Cap Gurus, how much roll over do we have this year? I know that can't roll over twice so just trying to see what our rollover might be next year.

. Rodgers gets pummeled behind his line. Wasn't he the most sacked or hit QB in the league in the last few years. That doesn't mean I dislike the signing of it happens. The money being spent is worrisome to me based on the guys needing contracts next year. But that's a different discussion. I really think Urbik is fine at G, not great, not bad. Sitting between Wood and Bulaga/Glenn would be really beneficial for him and mask a lot of deficiencies. Similar (but opposite) to how rough Wood was last year between Whoever we had at G out there. If we sign a starting RT We are probably OK at G right now. If the plan is Henderson, we still need G help.

I believe those all go towards the cap. Could be wrong. This was my point about bounty gate. More than the pay for play and dirty hits. Illegally spending money and having it not go to the cap was a red flag for me.

This is my issue with the trade. I can rationalize the skill for skill part. We didn't miss Kiko last year at all. But what the trade also does by proxy is cost is resigning one of our own. Cap space is right around 25 mil, -5 for rookies, 10 for Shady. That leaves us around 10 mil to resign Bradham, Dareus, Glenn, Gilmore. In essence this move may cost us Kiko and one of the above.

Eh. We are terrible at gaurd, he's a gaurd with no team. I would hope his name comes up at a meeting. Can you give info on the QB resolution that nobody is talking about?

I was already to post that I thought Oher's arm length might be too long to shift inside, but looking it up, they really aren't, though it is possible, not sure it translates. It is weird he played well at RT for a while, then not even close. Also 10 games at Ol Miss doesn't mean he can do it productively in the NFL. He has poor footwork, and arms on the longer side (although he isn't as long as i thought (that's what she said)) If he is super cheap, and very little bonus so he can be cut, go for it, but otherwise pass.

Pat Kirwan made a really good point today, if You don't like the goal line personel on the field, spread everybody out. It either forces a mismatch in coverage, where you look towards the pylon, or forces the pats to take a TO. Not defending the play call, but in theory the Seahawks picked on an undrafted rookie FA to win the game. It was a winnable match up on paper, guy made a good play.

Just at the CB position alone, I think NE is at least equal

At the time it made sense though. Both were productive, and both coming off injury. Culpepper with a knee and Brees with a shoulder. If you had to pick a between a QB with a bad knee or bad shoulder, which would you choose?

If it's a boy name it Vince (Lombardi)

I am not being dramatic, that is the measurements of the entirety of Patriot Place in comparison to the Galleria Mall. Sure Gillette has the same footprint (within reason) of every other NFL stadium, I am talking about the entirety of the complex, and implementing something very similar in Buffalo, so total area should be taken into account. If you can get it to work within a street grid great, but how many blocks of downtown land/street scape will be dedicated to parking lots? Tear down the main place mall, it is a disaster/eye sore. Fun fact that used to be a "park" in the middle of the city. It was green space for public use/gatherings It would be cool, and work well with canalside if that were turned into some sort of walking plaza.

Ummm OK....In a passing offense that was ranked approximately average: 18th in yards 13th in attempts 15th in TD's. Chandler put up similar numbers to what the offense is doing on average. In fact much closer to what the offense averages out, than what our number one and two receivers did relative to the offense Watkins 35th in receptions 22nd in yards 23rd in TD's Woods Tied for 35th in receptions 50th in yards 65th in TDs Are both these guys below average as well. Based on the numbers you posted, Chandler is better at his position than our 1 and 2 receivers. Now I don't believe it, and I wouldn't even attempt arguing it, but based on your line of thinking, Watkins is well below average at his position and Woods is right around average at his. The offense is terrible. Chandler is not Jimmy Graham, but his production would be above average in an offense that performed (QB position/playcalling) above average. While we are at it. Lets just cut Watkins, because he is so far below average. Cut him because we need an upgrade! That is super fair actually. As long as we have improved upon it, agreed. I still think he can be an asset on the roster, and create mismatches, but I would be on board. I don't know why, but I am terrified of the cap in the coming years, so other than guard/QB, spending in FA makes me nervous. That is probably just me. But Hughes, Gilmore, Bradham, Dareus, are all going to cost us money down the line. If we find a QB in FA, that will eat away at that too. I think Chandler becomes remarkably better with better play at the QB position.

Who is your replacement. By cutting him outright, are we now worse off at the position than where we started?

I understand economic growth, and its need in Buffalo, but please nothing like Patriot Place in Buffalo. The lot size is approximately a half a square mile, think, half of Kenmore. If you need something to go off of, it is about 3-4 times the lot size of the Galleria Mall. And people want to put that on the waterfront(ish). Something like this doesn't act synergy with the canalside area, it actually is the opposite. Paving a good portion of downtown for more or less a mall is a terrible idea. Skating, music, the riverwalk or whatever they are calling what is going in there, do not work hand in hand with small village sized shopping centers. There is a reason that this place is built 30 miles outside of Boston, and it isn't just available real estate.

I've said for a while that any cap number should include coaching and scouts/gm

But it's not the same. Setting the balls above regulation prior to inspection is different than changing post inspection. Prior to a snap being taken, Rodgers gives the officials a chance to write the wrong. Think weigh in sports, I can speak to rowing. At the World Champs or the Olympics, lightweights have a weigh in window. Everybody is pushing the upper limits, guys weigh in as heavy as possible. They sometimes get in the scale a few tenths over, cutting it pretty close. They fail the weigh in and have up to 60' to weigh in again. They sweat, and compete within the rules. Rodgers allows the officials to do their jobs and mandate he competes within the rules. There is nothing wrong with that. Now if Rodgers refills the balls post weigh in, that's a different story. I am a proponent of the game balls being handled by the officials during the game with psi perimeters/specifications from each team. Balls are to be checked again at the half and finish of the game.

Chandler is above average at his position. I think it's just the bandwagon that ,"we need to upgrade the TE position". We are by no means set at TE, but cutting Chandler is by no means addition by subtraction, it is pure subtraction. Eric Wood is going nowhere. He has been voted by the players in the NFL, as one of the most underrated OL in the league, and best at his position. There was an article/vote a while ago. I'm on my phone so am not able to find it. Urbik is going nowhere he is the best gaurd on the roster, and the position is the weakest. Fred is safe, and his contract really is modest, so it doesn't make much space. There is a difference between clearing cap space, and getting rid of guys you don't like. Without a solution other than, "find anybody off the street" is just creating wholes and more weakness. It's moves like a lot of the ones posted that have kept us in the basement for the last decade. Draft solidly and a few role players in FA is the answer, cutting your better players without replacement is not. You don't cut your best gaurd and center, then cross your fingers you find 2 FA without overpaying for mediocrity you more or less already had. The reality of our OL situation is that I think we have better personel than we are getting output. I think we are above average at LT and C, Average/Servicable at RT and LG (Urbik). We have a HUUUGE need at The opposite gaurd position. Look for similar personel and a huge upgrade in production under Roman and Co. That said I don't think Richardson and CK are answers at this point, but I wouldn't call them busts. Some of these moves might make more sense next year if we have a good draft this year. Look for us to draft a replacement for KW in the next year or two. His contract is relatively large and he is aging.

And being benched in San Fran was.....

Peters. Then I can finally agree with all the kick Cordy in slide posts. Line would go Peters Glenn, Wood Urbik Henderson. That is more than servicable and would produce a running game with just about any back in the league.

Not that I disagree with your overall post, but.... 1) best run organizations in the NFL? Big market and exposure doesn't mean well run. You had Mangini and Herm before Rex. The GM position there has been garbage for a while. Groh is the only coach under Johnson (I didnt include Parcells because his last year was 99, and Woody bought the team in 99). 15 years 5 coaches, all losing records overall. The Bills have been hot garbage for about the same period, and nobody is calling us well run over that time. Infact the current FO is probably the most supported so far, and there are still people who think its a mess. 2) the Ravens thing. Bisciotti has said that he normally takes a back seat for those decisions. But got a personal recommendation from Hoodie himself, so stepped in and pushed the hire. Not sure if Rex was the front runner prior to that. May not have been, which would make your point valid. 3) I thought Bart Scott played a lot a pretty high level for a while. I don't know what the contract was, or his weekly production since I don't watch a ton of you guys, but every time I did Bart looked like a good player. 4) you did overachieve on D this year considering talent at corner in relation to the system. Which proves a prior point of yours. I took those comments as finger pointing at terrible offensive production rather than blind optimism of the how well they played. 5) your QB situation was much worse than ours. Geno has some better games than EJ, but EJ has yet to lay a single clunker that is anything similar to what Geno has done at times. Also Vick is garbage. I hope you're wrong about personel usage and adjustments. It will absolutely be in the back of my head through the season.

It's like he's the reverse of Kiko

I took a swing by the Jags board, not one of the registered TBD commentors, but I am astonished at how happy they are with the hire. Really odd. I get being OK with it, I get being neutral, and try rose colored glasses, but they are all really happy about it with no negativity. I credit it to they don't know much about football. Makes me appreciate this place more, even if I don't agree with all of you.

By no means am I rooting for the Pats, but as time goes on I am really growing a great deal of respect for still being able to watch Brady play his position at the level he does at his age. The guy is as fierce a competitor as they come, and his moxy would be labeled very Buffalo if he was here. That said I love watching him cry too! Billy on the other hand....

My heard a while back they have the smallest scouting department in the league. Also that Marvin Lewis does most of it, but not necassarily out of choice or job, but out of necessity. His job is more or less eternally safe because the franchise realizes that their ratio of success to resources is very high.