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No he needs to apologize to us. We keep players like MW on the bench so that his buddy Marrone can save his job.

The court punishment was an absolute joke. I've seen guys get more than that in court for a DUI. It was absurd and a very liberal use of the term punishment. In regards to the who is the NFL, you're correct the U.S. judicial system is the only place in life that has any consequences for your actions....put John Smith at the top of his resume and have him go find other employment. Then let's see if this guy is a hirable employee. Again other than imprisonment the courts can't rule, "don't go to work for the rest of the year". This line of thought is so flawed and nonsensical to me. When you do crappy things sometimes you go to court, and sometimes it costs you your job. Welcome to life.

The issue I think is beyond the Ralph. We can clean that up. It's parking and the rest of the infrastructure in the area that is the problem. Simply, it is a safety risk getting peoe to and from the stadium, let alone parking and seating.

I never really understand this. Something as simple (not demeaning the offense) as a DUI conviction would cost many people their jobs or make them unhirable for a lot of professions. The courts never said don't hire this person. They don't rule that you can't go back to work, yet it happens all the time, and reasonably so. So I posit this to, not just you, but other posters as well. Go beat your kid with a stick, bloody and bruise his genitals. Have it in the front page of every paper. Then show up to court and tear positive for weed. (Not a weed issue, just a known agreement based on probation). Then go sit down with your boss and tell him all about it. Think you still have a job regardless of court judgment? The answer is no in just about every profession. Teacher, IT, engineer, graphic design, realtor. Sure you are welcome to find other similar employment. The part I think people miss is that the company is the NFL not the teams. Akin to being banned from McDonalds. Sure go to BK, problem is there is one NFL. I'll say this, I lived at the Olympic Training Center for a few years. I do this, and I am kicked out in a a second.

Never against Bellicheck. The last thing I want is to have to deal with a full half against an angry Bill and Tom

I won't comment on realism or should. One major problem could be too many players in the huddle. Granted there isnt one but something says this rule could be imparted. Even if you have player fake come on and off, I inagine if they come on the field even prior to the snap it could constitute. You have Fred or CH take the snap. It's ab option play so depending on what the defense is ready for they can do what they want. Yes any offensive substitution has to give time to the defense. Remember the Schiano debacle where they actually went after the kneel down for a fumble. It wasn't well received.

So we scored a touchdown then!!! Good news

People keep pushing this stuff and I don't know where it comes from. I hope the Bills turn around under Pegula, but there is no history in his tenure as a professional sports owner that suggests this. Infact it is the opposite, one may consider him meddling. Scouting players on his own, "Ted black doesn't have a monopoly on hockey knowledge around here"

Forget EJ. Winston is loking like a disaster, and I am guessing there are at least 10 teams with QB issues that have already written him off. But thanks for playing.

Totally in awe that Gugny didn't start this

That's what I meant. Writing going through my day on the mobile telephone

Yes

EJ is being sit because he needs to learn. To get it back I want it earned not lost by Orton. So week 1 2015 if he wins the position back!

I get the sense that there is turmoil between Whaley and Marrone. I know shocking stuff. It will come down to Pegula most likely. 8-8 most likely but could go, 9-7 will keep him. The wildcard is how Hackett and how tied Marrone is to him

I can turn a blind eye to weed, drugs, dwi's, even illegal gun ownership. No way I take AP or RR at any contract ever on my roster. I keep hearing that the courts have handled this and it isn't the NFL/employers job to. Well go knock your wife out cold, or beat your kid with a stick and shove leaves in his mouth, march into your bosses office, tell him you did it, and that it is all over the news. See if you come back to work tomorrow.

We played ourselves last week against KC, this week against MIA, and then again versus CLE.

Brady is playing lights out in NE. He isn't going anywhere. Bledsoe got booted(traded) in NE because Brady was on the roster. Tommy is 10x the QB Bledsoe could even pleasure himself to. There might not be an upgrade in the entire NFL over Brady, let alone on the NE roster. I hate Brady for dominating us for years, but would welcome him tomorrow if he showed up, and if it cost us 3 1st round picks I would take it. With this D, we are immediate favorites for the SB. Not to mention he is a "Buffalo" guy. Bounced in and out of the starting role at college. Passed on over and over again in the draft. Shows up day one to practice and tells Kraft I am the best decision you ever made. Has played with a chip on his shoulder for over a decade and he has taken that chip and turned himself into one of the greatest QB's of all time. This has Buffalo story written all over it. I really don't get the hate on the guy so much so that you wouldn't take him on our team. But guys like Rapelisburger and AP are A-OK.

Orton is a band aide. Serviceable enough to not cost you games, provide the right amount of leadership, but also won't win you games. He is a reasonable place holder for EJ, another QB from the draft down the line, or even sooner, a FA like Bradford or Hoyer. When you have a QB of the caliber of Orton, the O should be designed around 2 guys, Spiller and more so Watkins. That's were the talent is, and you get the ball to them in a position to succeed. The last place you want to be with a guy like Orton or Fitzy is putting the ball in his hands with the game on the line. 9 GW drives over 10 years is nothing to brag about. Hell, the guy benched for Orton has 3 in 14 games. And EJ is (rightfully) on the bench. He is a game manager average/slightly below average NFL starter at best. Love the guts, moxy, and leadership from the guy. Glad he is here to fill this role. After the KC game, I am not sure what the biggest problem with the Offense is anymore. Which is actually the most frustrating part. Play calling, for the most part was better on Sunday. The OL dare I say played well, our skill positions seem to be good. Running game was exactly what we had hoped all year. Orton played "OK". Timing was off a bit, missed some reads, but that will happen with every QB not named Tom or Peyton. He is making some great throws that I watch and immediately think, EJ never would have completed that. Even on the 4 passes to end the game, people are claiming guys were open. They were some pretty tight throws to say the least. He did misfire big time. I guess I just don't have the answers as to where we go or what we do. Fire Hackett? OL? QB? WR? RB? All seemed to do an OK job but keep coming up short when it comes to points on the board.

How upset I am about the KC game still.

this line of thought is why we have been irrelevant for 14 years. you don't get rid of players without having a replacement plan for equal or better production. We currently don't have anybody on the roster to replace him, and similar to Byrd, we aren't gaining strength elsewhere by eliminating the salary. Stop, just stop.

You mean kind of like the sabres hired Nolan.....

Come on. The heaviness of being a must win game was not nearly at the height it was this past week. Basically saying we won games so we can't be the same team. The same old Bills blow it when it matters most. That's what they did, even after 2 weeks of preparation. I do hope they prove me wrong down the line.

I feel like Sunday vs kc already proved that

Not a Hackett fan, would love to see him go. On the fence on Marrone, he may be a great manager of a good staff. Mckelvin, he's played above average. No need to run him out of town. My take on releasing anybody at any level, whose the replacement? If we don't have somebody on the roster to fill the role, or a FA that we are marrying ourself to, then releasing anybody is a bad idea. Coach, OC, DB, doesn't matter. Releasing Leodis would create a fairly large whole on the roster that we can't necassarily replace. See what Whaley did with Byrd. That's how you handle these situations responsibly.

It's the lack of a move like this that lead me to believe Whaley is acting separately from Marrone. Whaley is doing his best to put together a good roster and is leaving the pieces in place for either a new OC or HC to come and work with. Just a theory/feeling, no evidence.