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I see stuff like this, the incident, not your post, and am just left wondering how we continue to overlook this issue in regards to acceptable medical practice and ethics, because the doctor followed NFL procedure. Just ignoring the fact that they never would have done this in their daily practice. The consensus in peer reviewed studies is that a standard concussion evaluation takes no less than 10 minutes. If a player was cleared, that means he was evaluated. If he was evaluated, then there was suspicion. I just do not understand the turn-around time in events like this and Russ Wilson.

I guess I am saying that while he followed NFL procedure, that does not mean he was following standard medical practice, which are two different things. I am also implying that I do not think that there was a "real" neuro assessment done because anything I read (I know internet is not always true) from neurologists say that during the convulsion he was also unconscious.

Not to sound snarky. What am I wrong about and why? How is what happened hear not negligence? How did the diagnoses not lead to putting Savage (the patient) at risk of further harm? I am asking genuinely.

Because if he were at his medical practice, taking care of you or I, he would be sued for malpractice. There is no way in hell that a medical professional would not face legal repercussions for that decision. It was medical malpractice regardless of NFL procedures.

Healthy on Sunday, is different than healthy enough to be allowed to watch film and practice. They are different conversations. If Peterman is healthy enough to go through team meetings and full practice, it is a toss up. If not, TT regardless of Sunday health, with Peterman dressed.

KC can win that game and we are still fine per the playoff machine. What is interesting. If we lose to the Phins in week 17, and the Raiders beat the Chargers, the Raiders are in. They would have to beat out a flawed Dallas team, Philly without their starter, then division rivals to do that. This! There are a ton of different options. More like a choose your own ending book. There are no nail in the coffin games next week.

Thought! (My head hurts) What if they moved preseason to this as a precursor to eventually going that direction. I agree, the helmet especially is currently a weapon not a protector. Curious what the data on brain injury suggests from the leather days.

Not to beat a dead horse.... But.... We could be talking about just replacing Kyle next season and having a very solid DL. Hughes, Day 2 Draft Pick, Marcell, Lawson. While Lawson isn’t an animal or a huge pass rusher. He is a good 2 down DE and sets the edge well. Then find a situational pass rusher that’s not Lorax in the 3rd possibly, or FA. We’d be fine. Now our line looks like: RE- 30 year old-pass rusher-above average. DT- Draft/FA DT- Draft/FA LE- A good starter if we have other pieces, but we don’t.

We don’t disagree on the dirtiness of the play. Fine, the last Steelers game was close. But what about the 20 other times Vontaze acted like a total POS. But Christ man. Nobody has taken out Dalton because of Burfict. Nobody has taken out his knees or ended his career. This is the crazy stuff you are suggesting, in a way you would carry yourself in that situation. These guys are professionals. This is not how successful professionals act in the world. Your approach is generally pretty cancerous, to well, everything. You seem like a guy who still brags about playing in the Monseneur Martin Championship game back in ‘82. Do you get pumped every time Canisius beats Saint Joe’s in football?

Nobody took a swing or went after JuJu after he laid out and taunted Burfict. Nobody went and took out his knees like many are claiming here. You just want to see dudes beat each other up. That is fine, but at least own up to that rather than thinly veil it as some ultimate act of integrity and decency. I have to agree with another poster on this. This is not hockey.

I hope they push his appeal until the Monday after week 17, no way the league drops it, and he misses a playoff game.

I don't know what you are talking about, this isn't on topic with the OP and my comments on the OP.

While I don't disagree, you do have to take into consideration that a lot of these are self inflicted losses and holes. Do they get credit for being better for limping through with self-inflicted wounds?

I think this is fallacy. At least when healthy. Our starting WR's are KB, Matthews, Zay Jones. It is a decent group, plus Shady and Clay don't hurt. Granted the best ability is availability, but not near the bottom of the league when everybody dresses.

I just assumed he dropped the N-word. Not allowed on the field anymore. He really was not all that close to ref, and wasn't around terribly long. And I don't think something like "kick him the eff out for that **** !@#$" is enough for 15 yards.

Everybody always talks about Gronk being a Neanderthal, not slobbering, putting together sentences, etc. Every time I hear this dude talk, I think he looks absolutely strung out on something. Dude has the craziest look in his eyes.

Agreed on this. I think it’s why we increased size at the WR position. If healthy, it’s not a bad group. Lots of size and huge catch radius. Should be perfect for a dude who is regularly inaccurate.

They also deliver Amazon orders on Sundays. TIL USPS > Buffalo Bills

It is already being toyed with. Joe Webb in the wild cat and just barely missing Cadet on his only pass in god knows how long.

Ugh...my fault. I removed the TT game like Kirby did accidently. Correct.

Depends on how you work with the numbers. From what I am reading/understanding, a teams win percentage for those who throw for over 300 yards in a game is.575. So they win more than they lose obviously. Or win about 57.5% of the time TT is special, and he wins more than he loses when he throws less than 300 yards. He wins 60% of the time when throwing for less than 300 yards. Remember that he is winning games where teams throw for 300 yards. This is also factored into the league average. We can leave it at that, but statistically we have opened up a whole can of worms in terms of other data that needs to be provided, because something else needs to account for this in order for the numbers to tell the full story. Data needs to be able to speak for the whole story or it is closer to anecdotal than statistics. OR.... The Buffalo Bills are .500 when they throw less than 300 yards per game this season. That number is much closer to the mean of .425 league wide when throwing for less than 300.

I agree. Good stop gap guy. It is just sort of frustrating to always be putting absolutely everything on literally the rest of the team. IE, if the D was better. But the OL. New OC.Shady needs more production. the WR. We have literally blamed everybody but the kicker. I don't think it is so much of a crusade against TT, but more people just trying to say. Meh, he is not that good. I think just because one of the above issues is true, does not mean TT is good enough to win you 10-11 games year in and year out. Summary: I don't want him here, but I do not want him gone. We really are in QB purgatory

Just for comparison in yards per game including rushing this season. Tried to mix it up between QB's considered below average, average, above average, and elite. Tyrod- 211 yards Dalton- 220 yards Smith- 282 yards Newton- 260 yards Rodgers- 300 yards (2016- because data is skewed. He left the game early and only a few games this year) Brady - 309 yards Vivck(2011)- 299 yards Should note that rogers rushes for about 12 less yards per game. I like Tyrod's skill set in general, but in the NFL you need to be able to win with your arm first and legs second behind center. The scrambling is awesome for keeping some plays alive, but it cannot ever replace playing QB with your arm first. Unless you are a freak like Mike Vick, that style of play will never ever make up for inadequacies in the skill set to play the position. EDIT: Added Vicks last season as a starter in Philly with 13 games since I mentioned him. If TT rushed for the same amount as Vick per game, in his best season ever (over 1000 YARDS), he would still be at 260. ~40 yards less production per game than Mike Vicks final season as a starter, just perspective.

Meh. We have been incredibly bad at points, but lets not forget the playoff for the WC. Outside of Pitt and NE, the rest are teams in pretty similar spots. KC, SD, TN, BUF, BAL, JAX. All are very beatable teams by just about everybody in the AFC. The gap from top to middle is huge, but everybody else seems to be largely pretty competitive with eachother

This is nit picking, but Kiko for LeSean shouldn’t count as gone. Same as Hughes for Bradham. Point still valid