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Has Doug Marrone been to the playoffs let alone a conference championship game? Speaking solely in the roles we are judging, Hc v. Hc

Carucci has been wrong pretty regularly for some time now. We just notice it more because he only reports on Buffalo.

What's the angle here Beerball?/s

That's incredible to me. If it's like the Naval Academy then he needs a congressional letter of recommendation. It's insane to me that he was able to get one. He's a sociopath and stuff like that is apparent at a pretty young age.

My aunt married a Boston guy. He knows TB12* cheated. His only hope was that there was no smoking gun so he hoped (but he knows unlikely) that could help side step a suspension My Aunt and grandmother (both buffalonians) think that Tommy boy is a saint and such a stand up guy that could never lie. I think I might disown those two from my family/life. They deserve it.

Absolutely. I am not sure of the rate of decrease though, and yes I saw the stats posted. I think that any rate of change on game day is of lesser concern to the league than the conscious effort to willing break the rules and procedures. An institutionalized protocol to hide breaking the rules is of greater significance to the game. It means any form of cheating could be possible with the right amount of planning and bribery. This is closer to fixing/throwing games than it is any form of generalized cheating I've seen in sports in my lifetime.

I totally agree with this. I am just expanding on it. Taking the "could be wins" where we get the lucky bounce/call or two, then things are great. But you could also count the bad breaks and go the other way too is all I all I am saying. If we can say we were a JJ Watt interception away from another win, Chicago was also a Kyle Williams interception away from another win. Or we were a PI call away against Carolina from getting another loss. I am just saying we are what we are currently. A middling team that is hopefully on the rise. So until we prove otherwise it is tough to discredit pundits from considering us anything less or more than that.

That's not true. Trained elite (aerobic) athletes use significantly higher levels of fat as a fuel source than carbohydrates. Their bodies are trained to do so. It is actually preferred, producing better long term results. The only time fat isn't used as a fuel source among athletes is anaerobic work. Without (ample)oxygen in the blood stream the body cannot process fats. Hence the Darby arguement. Fats are also an important part of recovery. It is one of the largest reasons a higher body fat percentage is necassary in aerobic based sports. Without a higher fat content athletes can't recover fast enough while performing regularly at an elite level, to get through a world championship cycle or Olympic quadrennial. 2% (if that actually exists) would absolutely be enough to get through a marathon, not arguing that. All I am saying is it wouldn't be enough to get through even the taper weeks leading up to the marathon, while still producing an optimal individual result. Cannot train as an elite level aerobic athlete at 2%. I am not arguing whether or not Darby is actually at 2%. I agree that such a low reading is probably inaccurate. There was speculation as to whether or not it was a healthy or even plausible place to be and perform at a healthy/high level, so I accepted measurement and rationalized that football is an acceptable sport to have such a low body fat percentage. Because football is almost entirely anaerobic, and anaerobic activity burns little fat (reason stated above), 2% is ok.

To play Devils advocate. We were also a full game worth of starters vs. the Pats** to being 8-8 as well. The Bills have been middling for years now. That means a couple of bounces one way or another we could have been a disaster or very good. Until we prove otherwise we are what we are. I am high on this roster but also accept the prior statement.

This is my problem as well. I don't care all that much about the competitive advantage of deflating footballs. I don't think it's all that large, and each QB has a certain level of customization of them. But the lieing, stealing, bribing are a HUUUGE issue. The 100% knowledge and understanding that what they were doing was against the rules, so much so they had to sneak around and lie. It's borderline incredible.

I agree with both your points either/or work for me. It was merely an idea if the NFL continues to insist on teams handling the balls post measuring, what the reproductions are of they are in fact tampered with. What that punishment is I have no idea, the rowing example was just what other sports due that measure equipment before and after competition.

Skinny doesn't mean low body fat super duper lean and low % body fat. It is pretty widely accepted that aerobic athletes don't want to push under the 5-6% mark because it becomes a hindrance to performance. Sure are there some that function a little under that, there is an exception to everything even at the elite level. That number of 5-6% is a really close guideline for elite aerobic athletes. He is probably right in that range, a measure 3x greater than Darby's reported numbers. Being at 2% would not be beneficial to a marathoners performance, in fact it would negatively impact it. That's all I was trying to get across.

This is exactly it. I was listening to Sirius NFL radio this morning; Poppa and Toomer were talking about the Browns and Falcons and nobody making demands for their cheating. They totally are missing your (our?) point. It's not that the Pats** keep winning, it is the conscious effort to beat the rules. If the Falcons or Browns stood up at the podium and preached their innocence, we as NFL fans would be beating the same drum. This isn't about the W-L, or competitive advantage anymore. It's the organizational bribery and to and general skeevey-ness to go around the league to break the rules. With all the coach the NFL brings in, it's odd to me that they don't have neutral employees at every game in the home teams AV booth (Colts/Falcons), or handling the game equipment. They should. Or similar to rowing at the World Champs, all boat classes have a minimum weight. You weigh in pre race, add weight if need be. Then if you win a medal, first thing when you get back to the dock is you put your boat back on the scale. If it's under weight, disqualified. Happened in the Semi-final at the 2010 national championships here too. The athlete wasn't allowed to race the final. Weigh the balls before and after. If they are off by a significant margin, automatic loss, fine, loss of draft lick. Whatever, doesn't matter. But for high stakes, big money sport, the level of control lies too much on the honor system.

That's not true. Your standard polar hr monitor will pick that up no problem. It's actually a pretty common resting hr for elite aerobic based athletes. 2% is low. Maybe too low. He can get away with it in football though because it's pretty much entirely anaerobic. Football is explosive and doesn't need a huge aerobic base. This would be terrible for anybody doing anything more than approximately 4-5 minutes of work. A marathon runner would totally fail at this body composition. Even way way way too low for a guy who runs the 1500. Darby will rarely need to burn fat as a source of energy. It's just fine for football or sprinting because of the explosive nature of the sport.

As much as I agree with all of this, I am really trying not to. Everybody has a right not to incriminate themselves. So I am trying really hard to not think poorly of this. I thought everybody had some sort of league issued phone so I'm not sure why they didn't take it.

I got through about 120 pages. It's not good for Brady or the Pats. These guys can't keep their stories straight.

There's a bunch that look like weiners. If anything is funnier than butts, it's weiners

This is inherently false. Elite athletes are wired both physiologically and psychologically different than everybody else. Sorry but that's the facts. No matter how hard you work and how tough you are, you're never ever going to be an elite athlete. Nosuccessful elite athlete is just "a mere mortal" in either of those two categories, especially the physiological part. You may not realize it standing next to them, but believe me under the skin they are far superiority to you. Each sport (or in this case position) has different successful measurables and physiology, that may not be intimidating, but they are predisposed to success at different sports or activities. I know Olympians and world champions, that by your standard, are just average Joe's. Source: I lived at the Olympic training center for a few years as an athlete.

So what, NYC and metro NY are account for more than half the population of the state. Western NY accounts for about 15% of the state (2.5 mil) a little less actually. Splitting just NYC (8.5 mil)alone just about doubles WNY in raw numbers. Just by local populations 4.25 mil to 2.5 mil, and that's if each team gets optimal fan bases. It still means, if that works out, Buffalo dominates the rest of the state.

Bills jerseys are the most purchased NFL jersey in NYS. http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2014/10/1/6881169/nrl-jersey-sales-dicks-sporting-goods?utm_campaign=sbnation&utm_content=article%3Aother&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

Delaying his extension lets me breath a little easier about next off season.

I wasnt thinking about placing him over Rex, the Browns are a disaster, the Raiders of the East. I didn't mention Rex at all. Just letting out results do the talking this year.

If move Marvin Lewis up a few spots. The dude does everything in Cincy and he doesn't have much of a FO. Pagano? I don't know what to think, it's the Andrew Luck Show out there in Indy. Not sure if their level of competitiveness is on Pagano or Andrew. I've liked Tomlin for a while, but Pitt has been mediocre lately. Jason Garrett is too high on the list. So is Wisenhunt. I'd move Pettine ahead of both. 7-9 with the disaster that was the Browns last year should put him around the average mark not under. Ron Rivera is riding the Cam train. McCoy, I'm meh on. That's a good roster in SD, and they have a franchise QB.

Pittsburgh has never been in the whole or been in the downward trend that Buffalo is. It's not just the city, but the entire region is losing population. which is pretty Singular to Buffalo when it comes to areas in the decline.