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Generally I would agree that scoring 32 points should win you any game, and the D has to do their job. BUT when you go 3 and out 5 times in a row, and give the ball back to Brady 3 times, be prepared to lose. You give Brady that many extra possessions you've put yourself in a position to get into a shoot out. I think we gave away 10 points off turnovers (could be wrong), but that makes it 30-32.

Woods ran around uncovered quite a bit yesterday. TT is not seeing the field well. I noticed while at both games. It's either go route or screen with him the past two weeks. Not sure how much of that is by design, but I can attest there are WR running intermediate routes that are being missed.

Am I the only one not throwing the D under the bus yesterday. While I don't give them a free pass, we turned the ball over 3 times and went 3 and out 5 times in a row at one point on the other side of the ball. Historically you give Brady 3 extra possessions he's going to tear you apart and hang 500 yards on you. I was more upset with offensive play than defensive play yesterday.

How about a tomahawk cheeeaaaater cheeeeeeater cheeeeeater, every time Brady takes the field.

In statistics you take out outliers all the time. So they are less of an if, and more of an anomaly. Take out the longest and shortest if you like. But the offense lacked consistency in being able to run the ball.

My largest complaint was that if you took out the long runs by McCoy and Williams, our yards per carry were right around or under 2. Also with 3 turnovers we basically tied ToP. Obviously this is linked to above and being able to run the ball consistently.

Excited about what he's done during preseason, but 60% is unremarkable at best in college.

Because speculation has no place on message boards. Say he commands 10-12 per year. Which isn't all that high. Is that an affordable resign! Assuming we resign the players above. Onviously of he plays out his mind we will lose a guy on that list. But say he plays like the 15th best QB in the league, what's the play?

I know TT has an option to void his contract if he plays X (50%?) games. Given that we want to resign Gilmore, Dareus, and Bradham at the very least, plus maybe Glenn. Can we afford to pay starter money to TT, with (hopefully) one year of productivity? What is his estimated worth at the end of the season based on his current production in PS? Also is it possible he is a "stop gap" and the staff sees something in EJ and we replaces his production with somebody on the roster next year? I know it's way early to talk about this. Cary before the horse and all, just curious though. It's a valid thought when thinking about the future. Perfect world he plays out of his mind, and we sign him long term and he continues to produce.

Unless to cheat on that exam you pay your flunky friend to go and steal the exam from the professors office. In which case you've opened up quite the can of worms.

Maybe I am over simplistic with this, but the way I view the league and employment is akin to McDonalds, ie a franchise. While team owners fit the bill, the athletes are employed by the greater NFL. They are free to participate in the free market, but to be employed by the NFL you must abide by NFL policy, practices, and employment procedures (ie the draft). The arguement would also imply that each team is a team for sale to compete in any league. As far as I know, no sport works this way (soccer maybe), and would operate under it's own bylaws. I understand what you are saying here. I just don't see the real world application for it. I guess they could go the ND route and be independent, but not sure how this works. The NCAA is a mess and isn't a true governing body (nor can it be). These schools act independently of eachother, something that can't and won't happen without dissolving the shield.

This is absolute crap.

Somebody mentioned weight. It's not just an equipment issue, but it also includes body weight. These guys are getting bigger, faster, and stronger every year. Also strength and explosion, which the NFL is predicated on both. The stronger and more explosive a player is the tighter he is. The faster he gets the tighter he gets. Strong athletes are tight by nature, it's the tightness that creates elasticity, the promotes what they do best. So as athletes get better the more injury prone they will be, if that makes sense. I worked with a pretty good S&C coach with at the Oly training center who used to work with MLB picthers and Jenny Finch in their offseason. He said he'd do very little if any stretching or working on their pitching arm. Had to stay tight to keep up the velocity. All he could do was keep the body in balance, and enough work on the pitching side to prevent injury. Note that this is pretty simplified when it comes to physiology, but the premise is absolutely true. I also think that there is some PED issues here. The body is getting bigger, faster, and stronger at a rate to quick to maintain performance, so it fails. You see it a lot in high end athletes with poor developmental coaching, who then find a coach who knows what they are doing, then they explode. That is in any sport. I have said it a few times, the NFL is NOT hiring the best physiologists. They just aren't. Football is a game of physiological freaks who get by with doing more work not the right work. Watch these guys clean or deadlift sometime. It's pretty terrible. It's accompied by a salaried S&C coach asking for more weight and more reps. Explosiveness is not really trainable. I have a few friends who work for the highest paid international sports in the world. Many of whom have met or worked in the NFL. All claim that most NFL trainers are flat out bad at their jobs and could never ever work for places like the AIS (Australian Institute of Sport) US Ski, or the German Sports University. All of whome are the best in the world at sports physiology, and considered the leaders of the study in the world. (Note: US Ski/Snowboarding is one of the most difficult places to get work in in the USA for sport science. You have to be extremely accredited and one of the best at what you do in the world)

Surprised, an hour + into practice, no report on first team QB reps Edit: Literally an update as I posted

There is no other side. He knocked a woman (whom he professes to love) out cold. Unless she had a gun, knife, or baseball bat, there is no reason. Another poster keeps referencing reading up on men who abuse women. I'm pretty fluent in it, I have men in my family who were never much man at all, and abused women. It isn't an accident, it isn't isolated. It's sick. My point is, if he was really working a program working on his DV, he never ever would have allowed his wife to apologize. Even if that was pre-"rehabilitation", he would apologize for allowing her to do that. The two sides to this story you reference are: 1. Ray Rice punched his wife in the face 2. Ray Rice is a terrible human being who doesn't deserve a good woman in his life. Whether he should be able to seek employment in the NFL is a separate conversation. But those points aren't debatable.

In an attempt to not hijack the thread I'll say my peace and won't address it again. Marriage or not, he allowed his fiancé/wife/girlfriend to attend a press conference and publicly apologize for her role in the incident. That's not the act of a man who feels remorse or understands the severity of what he did. A man who understands his actions in that situtiation, never allows for the woman to apologize for getting knocked out. Let alone has her do it sitting right next to him at a nationally televised press conference. Probably has, and probably continues to abuse her both physically and emotionally. If it weren't for her apology, I may be on your bandwagon of reform. I believe in second chances as much as anybody, but that whole circus was a disaster.

I absolutely hate the guy....but we are pretty depleted at the RB position right now. Get him in then get him out.

Semantics bro/s

This is talked about ad naseum but I don't think its TT. Cassel at this point.

But what if 789. Why can't that happen. You're EJ bias is really getting in the way of thinking clearly here.

It's not going to happen. He might be 3rd on the depth chart, but he won't be outright cut. Possibly traded, but not cut. I don't think he starts, but I also don't see a ton from the other 2. I think he sticks around and it is another open QB competition next year. Whoever starts won't play well enough to be named the outright starter next year. If he isn't named the starter next year anything could happen.

Love them! Just coming back this weekend from an 8 week work trip. I have work in St. Kitts all week too. I'm hoping to God I am home in time for this. Similarly, every moe. Show in Buffalo, I seem to be stuck in something I totally can't get out of. Not sure what the deal is.

I bet there a bunch of players that do this. Shady is the only one posting it on Instagram. Is it any different than a bunch of these guys paying hookers and pton stars?

Moulds is far better than our top two WR now, and they aren't slouches. But Watkins and Harvin are way better than Evans ever was. It's a tough choice. I think I side with 2015 there. You give a lot of credit to the 2004 DL, but not one of those guys would start on this line. They are hands down better. It's not close.

I was never a fan of the hire. Nor did I blink when he left. But....my ex's aunt worked for DM at SU. They got along great. Offered her a job in Buffalo. She refused. He used to give the ex and I tickets on the reg. Purely anecdotal. I want to believe the rumors about being a prick to secrararies are true because I really dislike the man. But it never existed in this case.