Mango

I was just talking about this in bed last night with my GF. Week 18 Bills at Pats is maybe the most meaningless game on the calendar, it is likely to get flexed because it has absolutely zero implications. The league will likely want Browns/Ravens, Chargers/Raiders, Bengals/Steelers, KC/Broncos, 49ers/Cardinals, and Seahawks/LAR on at the same time. A lot of moving parts for seedings and the wild card in there.

IMO It is partially because of Derrick Henry. He is a sure fire hall of famer who will end the season as his second best rushing season of his career. Sorta a similar reason why its tough to call Jalen Hurts the MVP when Saquan is the best player on the team right now. I don't disagree with you. Lamar is having a killer year. Better than Allen'? I don't know. But I think part of it is a correction on last years MVP, part of it is Derrick Henry taking some shine, and part of it is the idea that Josh Allen is due.

I agree here and I’m in the same timeline. Josh is officially crossing the line from “awesome in his era” to even without a SB is a first ballot HoF player. While Bruce is almost universally considered a top 5 pass rusher ever, and Allen isn’t a top 5 QB ever (yet) the positional importance at least gets him close if not above Bruce.

The disrespect for Brian Moorman is unforgivable.

Allen winning MVP would be great and all but I’m rooting for a Super Bowl. MVP is the frosting. It’s nice, tasty, but useless without the cake. (I have a friend who coaches the Olympic Team and constantly preaches “all cake, no frosting”)

The Houston game is a bit iffy because Houston has clinched. But otherwise Pittsburgh and Denver will almost certainly have something to play for and KC will get their best shots. Mahomes missing this week and losing to Houston sets the Bills up nicely. I think Pittsburgh can beat KC at home with or without Mahomes.

Not just targets, I think his snap count was super low.

I am not sure I saw him on the field once.

I also thought that through the first 3 quarters or so we were in position to end drives early or TFL but there were a number missed tackles/opportunities. Where as the Rams we seemed to have just gotten smoked. Cam Lewis was abused today. I know. Special Teams and all. But also….no.

Later

2 things: 1. Did I miss something about Cooper? I’m not sure I saw one snap. 2. Why did it take 3.5 quarters to get Williams on the field? Spector does little for me.

I don’t think it’s been all Josh all year. But the last two weeks have been. Sometimes your all star QB needs to be an all star and we’ve gotten that. I think the defense will find their feet again.

I think “high” is a relative term.

The Elam thing is so weird. I don’t get it. He’s played between “OK/Meh/Fine” and “Pretty Well” since being drafted. This camp he was reported to be playing as well as anybody. I’m really high on Ingram and fairly low on Lewis, but Elam not getting the nod would be nutty to me.

Might be pedantic but I think we’ve gotten more value than his contract by a pretty large amount. He’s getting (cap number) $1.6M (2024), $2.3M, and $2.575 this year and the next 2. He’s well out playing his contract. But there’s no real reason to move on, and upgrading will cost us at least 2x what we’re paying now.

Jadeveon Clowney. ODB was at least a really good receiver before he busted his ACL....twice. But yes, he is all hype these days.

Applications to become a waitress at Denny's has never been higher.

Tiger Woods is suddenly blowing up Josh’s DM’s.

Not to hijack the thread but this team would still suck of it had McJesus. The overall problem with the Sabres is Terry's stupid leadership structure. it works with the Bills because McBeane came in as a unit with a prior working relationship But nobody really has any defined roles and Terry just picks sides because everybody rolls up directly to him. The same shirt happened in his first few years with the Bills. Terry struck gold with the McBeane tandem then again with Allen. He is trying to recreate that with the Sabres to some extent. He clearly recognizes that part of the current magic in OP is because everybody is on the same page. But unfortunately "the same page" is a bunch of unqualified yahoos in Terry himself, Forton, and Adams. During the 49ers game the panned to Terry in his box where he was taking notes on the depth chart. I worry that he is fancying himself a football man the same way he considers himself a hockey man. Splitting up McBeane and bringing in a new person to go to Pegula directly is something I worry about. TL;DR: Terry's formula is broken, he just accidentally got it right once. But he is running both franchises the same way he ran them with Darcy, Ted Black, Botts, Murray, Russ Brandon, Doug Whaley, Rex Ryan, Ralph Krueger, Ted Nolan, Pat Lafontaine, etc. McBeane have found a way to make it work despite ownership. It is a masterclass.

Pouring rain helps.

The issue is that both orgs runs a flat management structure, which means anybody brings Terry anything and he is the arbiter. It works for the Bills because McBeane came in together with a working relationship. That can all change the moment a brand new person enters the equation.

I don't disagree, but lets not forget what happened to the Charges post Shottenheimer. They never recovered. Allen is better than Rivers, but they had a QB and the team spiraled. Also Pegula, I have no faith in Pegula.

I don't understand this from either side. The college game is so heavily reliant on recruiting and vibes. Belichick doesn't seem like he is all that capable of being a great recruiter (other than name/resume) and he certainly doesn't seem to be a vibes guy inside the facility.

I thought we were the benefactor of a lot of ticky tack calls that kept drives alive. Way more so than calls we lost out on. Somebody I was watching the game at one point laughed and said "I guess we are getting Chiefs treatment tonight". I did really like that the DB's challenged the refs to call DPI/holding. We got away with a ton of it.

I wanted to give a laughing emoji, but honestly it wasn’t worth you getting a meaningless internet point.