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My my uncle is Boston born. Huge pats fan. To his credit, he’s always been a de facto Bills fan of they aren’t playing each other. i said the same thing. Against anybody else I’m glad they are there. One and done would be “OK”. But against Marrone and Bortles, must win for the fan base. That said. I’m 31, so my adult life, and better understanding of football, the bills haven’t been to the playoffs. So this is huge. I remember being in peewee football coming home after playing NF, and Flutie coming back to keep the Bills in playoff contention on the radio on the drive home. This is my closest (and best) to that experience as Bills fan. I have been vocal about not being a fan of a bunch of the staff and players. But THANK YOU Tyrod, Kyle, Shady, and the roster. As much as it means to them, I’m sure they don’t understand what it means to this town.

Huge hold on Hughes there

TT- most definitely gone without a restructure. Maybe 12 mil one year only. True stop gap with no option to renew. That won’t happen at all though. Good for both parties whether stay or go. KW- will retire unless he strongly thinks we make it to the playoffs next year. If he truly believes it, he’ll take the significant pay decrease and see it through. Hughes- I would be astonished. He’s literally the only player in the front 7 worth a damn as a starter. We started the season Hughes, KW, Darius, Shaq with front 7 (zero linebackers) as a HUGE hole. Letting Hughes go, KW potentially retiring, Dareus traded, and Shaq now being rotational, means that we have to replace literally every starter in the front 7. Keeping Hughes in this situation is basically the definition of making your bed, and having I lay in it. Wood- recent extension. Right side of the line is a mess currently. There will be new blood at RG. If Cordy isn’t around, that side is still week. No way we go into the season with Dawkins, Richie, ?, ?, ?. Cordy- Is rather eat another year of salary to see if it pans out and he can be healthy. I think the salary is worth the risk. Especially considering how well Dawkins could anchor the other side. Clay-why? Shady- if we sell the farm to grab Cousins, maybe. Other than that it will be a journeyman or a rookie that will need the help. Depth is bad there. This would be disasterous with a new QB. Especially with the consideration of Glenn, Wood, and Clay. Brown- meh. Young enough, unsure of cap ramifications. Could go either way. Lorenzo- love this dude as a player and a person. That doesn’t mean he’s great at his job. Hope he stays. Won’t lose sleep if he goes. Most of the releases, outside of Lorax, Brown, and TT, seem relatively catastrophic to the team if we start pairing 2-3 together. Ar some point, even though these guys aren’t the best, we need to develope a reasonable depth chart. Not to make it a Battle of the GM’s, but that seems like what Whaley was trying to do. Keep what you draft if/when they perform. Always be looking for replacements. In 2017/18’s NFL, gutting a roster like this season, and potentially next, scares me to death. I like to call this the Scott Walker/Paul Ryan attempt to fixing problems, “Look at this thing (GOV) over here. It’s failing and totally the worst” <defunds said thing (cuts/trades players)Thing gets worse> “See look how much this thing is failing”

I made a point earlier abour seatching property sales and access to data. But I forgot a point. If this was in the works, a better and more efficient search is planning board meetings for the region. No way that “non-lazy millionaires” are purchasing 7 figures + worth of land without DEC recommendations and changing of zoning laws. Your post for some reason actually lead to me thinking of the restaurant and business “purchases” mentioned. If this is happening on a large scale, areas would have to be rezoned. With the amount of traffic, businesses, density, and sheer size of this, there is no way that it is not mentioned at a town council meeting or planning board meeting. Any environmental testing, which would be necessary, would be made public as well. It’s just how things work. Dopey Don mentioned the testing in his OP. The city is the only rumor with legs, because it’s the only location following standard practice across the nation. The township/county/state could declare eminent domain, but that is always dicey, and has a process of its own, would have started rolling, and would have been picked up already. I don’t care how much money you have. You can’t just buy 1000 acres and say, “my land, I’m building a stadium.” And nobody trying to get major tax breaks/profit would do so haphazardly. Everything about this is total poop. You are poop Dumbkirk Dan Sincerely, somebody who knows what they are taking about EDIT: grammar-still might be a mess. Sent from phone

That would have to be Lancaster/Newstead area. Anything further east is not Erie County. Maybe the edge of Clarence but also a good amount of houses. I would assume a significant NIMBY response there though.

Christ man. Cool, you have tons of money, and you are investing. Awesome. We appreciate your investment in our economy and infrastructure. If you are investing, you should do your due diligence, taking the steps I have above. Sounds like you did. Cool! BUT- If you expect NFL fans on a message board to do this kind of research over a new stadium, that they are not directly investing in, with no monetary gain, and in their free time, you are out of your gourd. The FOIA process will take over a month on its own most likely. But sure, call me/us lazy, that is what it is. Get off your high horse and stop being a wiener.

Dude, you want us to read through 6 months worth or property transactions for Erie County, pairing them with a map to see localization. Then pick out any shell corporations to see ties to WNY. Because that is how these things work, including the Harbor Center. Large development is generally purchased as its own LLC, so in the event of something terrible going wrong, the land asset does not effect the Bills, Sabres, or other Pegula's fracking empire. Should note that the Erie County Clerk records online, are only updated until July 2017. That means dig through the Buffalo news week after week. So to summarize your asking us to take the better part of an entire day, to go through each real estate transaction, submit a request via FOIA to the City/County for any building permits issued in the last 6 months, and notice the buyers, because there are plans to build a new stadium around the same time as the lease at New Era runs out with the county. Got it! As somebody with a degree in Urban Planning, this would be a great undergrad project to give an early level planning class as an intro/experience into how city planning works internally. All pubic information is not easy to come by. Cities and counties are notorious for making these requests incredibly difficult, draining, and time consuming. So yes public record, no not just a good search. If I cared enough I could map this all out via GIS, and be able to pinpoint exactly what is happening. It is also possible that this area is already an artery connected to an area of change currently, and is explainable via pattern. But I won't because your request is absolutely absurd, regardless of truth.

Agreed with this. I am not in the camp of take a QB at the top of the draft every year. You'll gut the rest of the roster over time doing that. BUT, I see no harm ever in taking a guy in the 1st or 2nd two years in a row. Take our situation as an example. Hypothetically, we package our two firsts to move up and take one of the top QB's, but Peterman progresses into the next Jim Kelly. We would all gladly give up 2 firsts and a second for a guy like Jimbo.

If we are going to roll the dice on a player fully recovering from injury. I want it to be a guy like Cordy. Drafted by us, played at a very high level, franchise LT. I am willing to eat the cap space, and possibly look for his replacement. The draft pick is nice, but we are creating holes, that need to be filled with that draft pick or FA. Pay Cordy another year or so. Move Dawkins to RT, Cordy to LT, and we are in a better spot. If it does not pan out, we are in a slightly worse position/the same place we are now with Dawkins at LT and still a need to overhaul the right side of the line. I mean what is the real value here. Trading Cordy for a rookie RG? Depth at LB or DT? If I trade my "starting" left tackle, even if there is some concern about longevity, I am still rolling the dice with status of my franchise. I need more than a draft pick that will be used on depth/a guy that might be out of the league in 3 years. I need a guy that will be with my franchise for the next 3-5 years as a starter. Not super star, but starter.

I generally do not disagree. And while I may get a bad feeling about my first scenario above if Tom decides to play. I don’t think the second scenario is just either. To me this situation is more akin to mental health decisions. Where in NYS you cannot home somebody who is mentally ill long term against their will. However if they are deemed mentally unfit in a way to where they are a danger to themselves, you can absolutely mandate a temporary stay in the hospital for a few days. In this case, on game day, Savage is not deemed fit enough to make decisions that would not endanger himself. If he wants to play next week, while I disagree, I would accept the fact that he made the decision himself in a much healthier place.

He shouldn't be given the decision. He was just knocked unconscious literally moments prior, it is no time for anybody to be making any critical decisions. You're acting like this happened yesterday, and somebody on Thursday is like: "Hey Tom, you were knocked unconscious last week, and you started trembling, you might not remember, that is common with concussions. Your body is physically capable of competing in a football game, but you could/will face very serious and dangerous medical repercussions for the rest of your life if you do, such as killing yourself, your family, and not being able to ever sleep through the night again do to head aches. Do you assume the risk?" What happened was: "Hey Tom, you got your bell rung pretty good there. We think you're good. You good to go?" "put me in coach"

I think that was either 2nd half or 4th quarter.

I would also say TT might be good to go if they were at Lucas Oil Stadium. But in those conditions, even if his knee was 95%, there is a good chance he trashes it for the rest of the season. An Aside: I hear a lot of guys talk about playing sub maximal, which happens in the NFL a lot, and that is fine too. But the difference between 95% and 100% is the difference between an elite athlete and JAG basically. Take the mens 1500m at the Olympics. The difference between winning the heat and not advancing is 0.67% difference in performance. 5% is the difference between a gold medalist, and some dude from some irrelevant nation/Olympic region. Margins in elite athletics are razor thin.

I see stuff like this, the incident, not your post, and am just left wondering how we continue to overlook this issue in regards to acceptable medical practice and ethics, because the doctor followed NFL procedure. Just ignoring the fact that they never would have done this in their daily practice. The consensus in peer reviewed studies is that a standard concussion evaluation takes no less than 10 minutes. If a player was cleared, that means he was evaluated. If he was evaluated, then there was suspicion. I just do not understand the turn-around time in events like this and Russ Wilson.

I guess I am saying that while he followed NFL procedure, that does not mean he was following standard medical practice, which are two different things. I am also implying that I do not think that there was a "real" neuro assessment done because anything I read (I know internet is not always true) from neurologists say that during the convulsion he was also unconscious.

Not to sound snarky. What am I wrong about and why? How is what happened hear not negligence? How did the diagnoses not lead to putting Savage (the patient) at risk of further harm? I am asking genuinely.

Because if he were at his medical practice, taking care of you or I, he would be sued for malpractice. There is no way in hell that a medical professional would not face legal repercussions for that decision. It was medical malpractice regardless of NFL procedures.

Healthy on Sunday, is different than healthy enough to be allowed to watch film and practice. They are different conversations. If Peterman is healthy enough to go through team meetings and full practice, it is a toss up. If not, TT regardless of Sunday health, with Peterman dressed.

KC can win that game and we are still fine per the playoff machine. What is interesting. If we lose to the Phins in week 17, and the Raiders beat the Chargers, the Raiders are in. They would have to beat out a flawed Dallas team, Philly without their starter, then division rivals to do that. This! There are a ton of different options. More like a choose your own ending book. There are no nail in the coffin games next week.

Thought! (My head hurts) What if they moved preseason to this as a precursor to eventually going that direction. I agree, the helmet especially is currently a weapon not a protector. Curious what the data on brain injury suggests from the leather days.

Not to beat a dead horse.... But.... We could be talking about just replacing Kyle next season and having a very solid DL. Hughes, Day 2 Draft Pick, Marcell, Lawson. While Lawson isn’t an animal or a huge pass rusher. He is a good 2 down DE and sets the edge well. Then find a situational pass rusher that’s not Lorax in the 3rd possibly, or FA. We’d be fine. Now our line looks like: RE- 30 year old-pass rusher-above average. DT- Draft/FA DT- Draft/FA LE- A good starter if we have other pieces, but we don’t.

We don’t disagree on the dirtiness of the play. Fine, the last Steelers game was close. But what about the 20 other times Vontaze acted like a total POS. But Christ man. Nobody has taken out Dalton because of Burfict. Nobody has taken out his knees or ended his career. This is the crazy stuff you are suggesting, in a way you would carry yourself in that situation. These guys are professionals. This is not how successful professionals act in the world. Your approach is generally pretty cancerous, to well, everything. You seem like a guy who still brags about playing in the Monseneur Martin Championship game back in ‘82. Do you get pumped every time Canisius beats Saint Joe’s in football?

Nobody took a swing or went after JuJu after he laid out and taunted Burfict. Nobody went and took out his knees like many are claiming here. You just want to see dudes beat each other up. That is fine, but at least own up to that rather than thinly veil it as some ultimate act of integrity and decency. I have to agree with another poster on this. This is not hockey.

I hope they push his appeal until the Monday after week 17, no way the league drops it, and he misses a playoff game.

I don't know what you are talking about, this isn't on topic with the OP and my comments on the OP.