Mango

I fully agree greed with your take on UB as a good school and bang for buck. I went to UB. I get it That doesn’t make mean that higher education is a major pillar of our community, and defining pillar. It’s not Boston, Chicago, NYC, the Bay Area, or for the sake of this conversation, Pittsburgh. Outside of UB the educational opportunities here are middling. Employment opportunities are currently relatively entry level for much of the population. We don’t have a diverse job sector. A lot of those things go into what makes Buffalo affordable. We’re in the NE, so we are ahead of the curve compared to a lot of cities and regions. But Pittsburgh is a great example of what Buffalo should strive for. Good use of waterfront. A lot of diverse employment opportunities. More than one good school for higher ed. Reasonable cost of living.

I think the point is being missed here. Granted my response was full of some snark. Most and many of the jobs for companies like Ingram, Citi, Ingram, Blue Cross, Kalieda, etc. are largely low end employment in the grand scheme of things. Largely because of the need for work in Buffalo and the low cost of living. There are a number of colleges in WNY, but it’s not a hub for education. It is a mid sized city with colleges that are relatively average. UB, Buff State, Cansisus, D’Youville, Daemen. It is not an educational hub. Buffalo props up these companies and universities more so than they are actually recognized outside of the community. Not to hate on the area. I moved back a few years ago for a number of reasons, mostly personal and home town stuff. But it is also an honest inventory of the region. Most of the actual data for the Buffalo area does not point to any sort of resurgence or renaissance. It’s a relative fallacy. Very little meaningful data points to an upward trend. It’s still stagnant with a few coats of paint.

I love buffalo. Don’t get me wrong. It’s my hometown and generally under rated. But let’s call a spade a spade. Pittsburgh is a cool town with more going for it than Buffalo. They do have a history of money. They also have a world class (top 5-10 in the world of not better) university in Carnegie Mellon. That is in addition to Pitt and Duquesne. Driving there does suck though. Cleveland seems to be doing a good job as well. Always seems like there is a lot going on whenever I am there for work. Buffalo has some of the most debt collection agencies in the country. We have a low income need, and low skilled workforce. Debt collectors love it here.

I really liked the “Major Industries” for Buffalo. Financial Services, Technology, Education. ...basically collections, Ingram (which is half call center), and UB. Looking great.

Cool! Does Allen start games with a 7 point lead then because he didn’t have that “luxury”?

And he just threw an INT in the end zone. Haha. I agree with you fully. Poor timing on the post.

Brees is a weird case. He’s basically working on a series of 1 or 2 year deals that are almost entirely gauranteed. Brees will also account for AT LEAST 10 mil against the cap the year after he retires. It was in his last contract, it just keeps getting pushed back. So anytime you see Brees getting reported at 25 mil-ish, remember, he has 10 mil sitting in the bank for him the year after he retires.

I mean, the likely scenario is Whaley advocated for Watson. McD said "no, we are holding off on grabbing a QB high until I see what we can do with TT. I need a better zone corner, especially after losing our CB 1 in Gilmore. Get me a guy"

Agreed. Bad special teams is generally indicative of an incomplete roster/lack of depth. There is a difference between under performing players and bad players. We have bad depth at CB, LB, WR. Doesn't give your ST much of a chance. That said, Crossman still blows.

For me it is less about W-L. They need to beat and/or play good football against good football teams. We split a bad Jets team. Split an average dolphins team. Lost to 7 playoff teams. If the Bills go 8-8 next year and 4-4 against playoff teams or teams over .500, I’ll know we are moving in the right direction.

I think his floor, attitude aside, is probably similar to Jay Cutler.

I had the exact same thought. Pretty dangerous going forward. The Browns are another one to watch. They played some good football this year, and tight against some pretty good teams. Lots of room. If Baker continues to progress, they could be very dangerous very quickly.

I would prefer Hugh Jackson. ?

I was a Rosen guy admittedly. And admittedly I have been a bit disappointed this year. I’m also really excited about Allen. He is a fun player to watch behind center...that said the book isn’t written on either. There is reason to be cautiously optimistic about Allen. And cautiously pessimistic about Rosen. What i I dislike about this is poo pooing analytics or stats. What people liked about Rosen was they he was a more “precise passer” (seems to be a buzz word around these parts. That his college career in most categories gave him a chance at a higher success rate than Allen. No matter how their careers pan out that still true. If Allen turns into Favre and Rosen into Edwards, that doesn’t change the probability coming out of college. Just because a FO swam against the current once, doesn’t mean it is good practice. And just because you swim perpendicular to shore in a rip tide, and still drowned, doesn’t mean it’s a flawed practice. no matter what happens a bunch of us will be right and a bunch of us wrong. Still, nobody knows and people need to be less polarizing about it.

I mean he’s .500 against Buffalo in Miami. I would be more anti-Gase if we could count on more wins against him.

Basically we aren't good enough to beat 37.5% of the league. Great. We are 50/50 against draft picks 3 and 13. Sounds about right. Woof

I hope the Bills grab him, and he wears 71. It is the little things in life. amirite

These two two points will keep the fan base pretty polarized about JA.

RE: Gailey That was a bad situation to say the least. Buddy and Chan inherited the post TD and Levy mess. Maybe our worst roster in history. He did OK. The offense moved for having basically zero talent. I’d argue close to on par with this past season. I would argue Chan’s biggest downfall was the defense. He would have had a longer career here and much more success with Jim Schwartz on the defensive side of the ball. Chan Gailey isn’t a terrible coach. Probably splitting hairs on this point.

I took this as quality starters in the NFL: Tre White Dion Dawkins Matt Milano Karlos Williams- Karlos messed that one up. Ron Darby Robert Woods Marquis Goodwin Kiko Alonso Preston Brown Ross Cockrell- PFF grades him well This is a fair take

1. This is fair 2. Pre-draft and during the draft this is absolutely false. There was talk of Watkins possibly going first over all. 3. Meh. 4. We and the staff asked for a TE. He was the best tight end available. We overpaid. But that’s FA. I don’t hate Clay as much as others on this board. His knees are breaking apart. It’s a shame. Won’t throw a fit if he leaves though. 5. His cap hit had we waited until the next league year, 2019, instead of getting a bag of footballs would have allowed us to make more moves this year. The decision to drop Dareus with that price tag falls on this FO alone. Would have dropped the cap hit to 4.5 mil-ish. Managing personalities is part of the job of a coach. 6. A lot going on here. He didn’t hire Hue. He didn’t hire Rex. Other than that, we don’t know. His presser though. That was brutal. ?

There was a stat out there that Doug Whaley HS more players starting on NFL rosters than any GM in the NFL that were drafted during his tenure. His biggest whiff was EJ. His biggest blunder was forcing him down our throats. Not allowing him to hire his own coach sort of hamstrung his “process”. All things considered, I think he was an above average GM. Not the best but not bad either. He had a good eye for pro scouting. Made some good trades as well. We won the Shady and Hughes trade, hands down. I do know this team is better with Darby, Glenn, and Dareus on the roster. Im still unsure if Beane is better or worse to date.

Just need to find a way to keep him around. Worst case scenario he is good depth for us. Best case scenario he continues to develop. If that means taking the 5th year option at 9-10 mil so be it.

Lets start with your list being wrong. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/quarterback/ 1. Brees* (13-2) 2. Rodgers (6-8) 3. Matt Ryan (6-9) 4. Cousins (8-6-1) 5. Jimmy (1-2) *Brees should actually be number one or two on this list. 2017 he signed a 2 year deal for one year of play, which they then extended again The Saints eat an additional 10 million in dead cap space on top of his $25 mil. At some point the Saints will be paying Brees after he has retired. gotta count that if you want to talk "highest paid" QB's 34-27-1 is their combined record. The top 3 on this list make just about every single team in the NFL better than they are right now. Pay them what they are asking for.

They should tell Roscoe Parrish to stay home this week. Kyle deserves to lead this team out of the tunnel for the last time in his career.