Mango

Seattle is playing good football. Buffalo is playing some of their worst right now. Russell Wilson is on fire this year. I would worry about the defense keeping Seattle to a low scoring game, and I’d be worried about the Buffalo offense being able to compete with their defense the way they are playing with Clowney. so yes, I’d be worried we can keep up. I have seen a few SEA games this year.

This just in, Bills fans are much more critical of their teams mistakes than they are of players in other teams.

I think Seattle embarrasses this years Bills team. This SF defense would give our offense nightmares. They are absolutely violent.

Just a reminder, we play both of these teams next year.

SEA defense has gotten much better as the season has gone on

huh?

I have been as critical of Allen as anybody but that won’t nor should it happen. He’s the guy for the season and should be the guy heading into next season. I do think we should see what Andy Daltons cost is next year. If we can do 2 years at 10-12 per, I pull the trigger and Allen gets 4-6 games to show he’s the guy in 2020. If we get 6 games of this production next year, I pull the plug and save the season. Dalton finishes the year and is around as a vet presence for the next draft pick. McBeane has done some things well and somethings poorly. I don’t want to start over AGAIN. But they need to have an immediate back up plan for 2020. They can’t do this again for a 4th year, then be a square one at QB in year 5, and expect to keep their jobs. Their jobs are dependent on either getting very good production out of Allen or having a replacement plan ready and waiting.

Can you imagine being a DC, you’re breaking down film on JA, and you realize that if you give him a certain look there is a 25% chance JA takes a sack. If you don’t get the sack, there is a 37% chance he completes the pass, and if he does happen to complete it, it’s only for 8 yards.

Dude, we just got out of cap hell. This contract was cap responsibility. I don’t know what your problem is...

Allen is late to throw a lot (anticipation). Sometimes he can get away with it because his arm strength can get a fastball there quickly. Sometimes it can’t. Allen is using his physiology to try and play catch up. This is the NFL, not the mountain west, it’s not working. It’s 20 starts of this now.

When your QB regularly struggles to score more than 20 points per game, with a top 5-10 defense, you’re going to get more judgement. When JA can take over multiple games with his arm, he’ll get more leeway. Until then he’s been inconsistent, and his inconsistencies have been largely the most glaring issues in our loses.

Dude, the link you posted shows Brady ranked 5th and Russ is 13th in YAC. What are you talking about. Od post after the Bills scored and held the opposing offense under the league average....against a losing team....for a loss... I guess you got me?

Baker and Landry get in a fist fight on the field/sideline.

I think that both teams are similar in that they aren't an easy out for anybody they face. I don't like the match up between Zeke and the current state of our run-D, but I do think they are beatable. Garrett is 4-5 on Thanksgiving.

Average teams can be a bad match up for even for good teams. In recent weeks we have had a tough time stopping the run. Zeke should scare us a bit. But it also does not mean they will have their way with us either. I have been as critical as anybody regarding this season, but I second this for sure! While I don't think the Bills are in the upper echelon of teams as our record would indicate, I don't think anybody is looking past us whatsoever.

I don't think they are a real threat in the playoffs in the NFC.

Thought that was interesting. 5-3 heading into MIN. I watched the last Giants game, and have to say, I was not all that impressed. EDIT: Since 2017, the Cowboys are 10-14 outside of the NFCE

Edmunds is ranked 6th for all MLB's in regards to total tackles and 26th for all defensive players. Unsure where that is coming from or if that was the intended point... This might be a good example of my previous post regarding disconnect on overall points between the two parties.

I haven't seen anything regularly on this board saying Edmunds won't be good because of his TLF, Sacks, INT, etc. You do have people arguing over what responsibility each gap was on a given play. But those are two people arguing over film without access to the actual play call. They are both the same type of fan.

Feels like these two are related....

1. I would separate Fantasy football, and stats. There are some that rely on probability in forecasting success, which is science, then their are the others who judge success on gaudy numbers. I think there is a difference between these two in terms of how they view the game. 2. Edmunds has gotten, and deserves plenty of flack from the All-22 crowd. In fact, I think people would be higher on him if not for the access to all-22 for your average fan. JA deserves both criticism for the way he has played and praise for improving his game. Both analytics and all-22 should reveal both. I actually don't see a huge gap between you analytics guys and your all-22 guys. Maybe because a lot of them dabble in both because problem solving/understanding is enjoyable to them. I think the big disconnect is between the people who operate via "feeling" vs. the more analytics base. They just communicate differently. I think when the analytics guys say "this is below average play, QB's/MLB's/DT's etc. who have x production generally result in y", fans who operate with their guts hear, " Player ABC is bad, and won't be good" and elicits that response. Inversely, when fans who operate based on their gut say "we won, lets keep on progressing", analytics based fans hear "good enough"...then everybody spends all week yelling at each other on the internet, and that is why message boards are fun.

I live in upstate (Saratoga) Glad to get another game I can watch at home rather than go out. CAR-GB is a weird choice over PIT-LAR to me for the 4pm. At least I would rather watch Pittsburgh.

Dude, I don't know what your deal is, but the constant aggression and need to attack is ridiculous. I am watching you pull up post history in unrelated topics, just to defame people (not speaking to this post hear). Almost like you are chasing guys around the message board to call them out. It isn't funny, it isn't snarky, and it provides absolutely NOTHING to the conversation other than over-inflating your own self worth. It is just mean. Cut the shyte and just have a conversation. To the point, there was no what if game being played. JA is playing better this year, there is no question about that. Allen was bad last year (IMO), and even with his improvement, we are playing too many close games against too many bad teams. We cannot afford to have worse QB play than we are getting now. I do think the TT comparisons are a bit over the top as well, but I also understand people seeing him play a much more conservative version of himself compared to last year. Seems like he is missing a lot of the big plays. Point being, we needed this out of JA to be 6-2. Then I posited a question, "at what point is this not a McD criticism, but a JA concern, that in order to protect wins and losses, we have to provide such a governor. I don't know why I just typed 3 paragraphs asking a grown man to just be a nice guy, and re-explain everything that is already posted and quoted in this thread. But here we are, maybe I am the dummy. Ha.

He needed to learn how to be a better passer in the NFL. If JA showed up in 2019, like he played in 2018, We could be 2-6. He completed about 50% of his passes. Through for about 160 per game, and threw more INTs than TD's. At what point does "being coached into Tyrod" become, not good enough to execute an NFL offense consistently.

Jason Garrett...am I doing this right? .667 win percentage as a QB