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This thread should be “do you think we should pay Josh Allen 35-40 mil per year?” Or “Can we win 10+ games per year if we allocate 20% of our cap space to a player like Josh Allen?” The answer is probably it’s too soon to tell, but at his current level of play, no

Next 3 years? Or our franchise QB? 3 more years seems about right. Then I think we move on. Our current style of play isn’t really sustainable for winning football games year over year. I mean, based on the QB market price now of $35M per year, do you take a huge chunk away from the defense and still expect Josh to win 10-12 games per year? With the 15th ranked defense, this is probably a 6-8 win football team. You don’t give a QB that much money if paying him means you drop under .500.

No he means too many throws. Josh has the lowest completion percentage in the league as a starter and 3rd lowest yards per game passing. That’s not because he is missing a “few” throws. He’s missing too many.

Defense got worked by play action especially yesterday. Brady and BB came prepared and picked on Edmunds and drew Philips off sides. Defense did ok making contact but couldn’t wrap up. Also gifted the offense the ball within field goal range. Offense did next to nothing with it. If not for that, it’s a 2 possession game. That said, they did enough to keep the game in reach. 17 points might not be enough to beat the Bengals on any given Sunday. For the first 28 minutes we were 3/9 and something like 11 net yards after sacks.

Allen has had bad games throwing the call 40 times as well. It’s not like there hasn’t been an attempt. Allen is unpredictably hot and cold.

I was surprised we didn’t burn our last TO after taking a look at the Pats D. It’s the final offensive play of the game. There is nothing to save a TO for. They needed more time to get set there.

C- to everybody. Didn’t look terribly good but scoreboard was close. Offense was about as bad as usual. Can’t keep drives alive. Drive killing sacks. Getting behind the sticks early etc. Struggle to score 20 points. Defense didn’t play to standard but well enough to keep us “in the game” whatever that means. Couldn’t get off the field today. Coaches, team looked like the were expending a different game from NE.

I did a ton of hating on not gambling the TO. I WAS WRONG. It was useful

Id give the Def a C-. They’ve been bad by their standards, but have done enough (whatever that means) to keep us one drive away.

This is a terrible take. We have completed 3...THREE...passes in half of a football game

“Dude, he’s done enough to keep us within a possession half way through this game. Obviously you’re just a stat guy with an anti Allen agenda. 1st half grade, A-. “ Somebody later in this thread, probably...

What are we saving the TO for? I’d rather gamble the 20% chance they overturn it and burn the time out, and maybe fire my defense up. Rather than concede a close call and points on the board.

Still upset about the non challenge. We get the challenge and TO back later in the game. Could have saved points. Out coached.

How do you not challenger that.... im screaming bad words

White on white and Blue on Blue are my two favorites. Yeah...I said it!

I think the last time he threw an actual pass in the probowl was something like 2005 or 6. So that streak is still alive I guess.

There is a scenario where the playoffs get seeded 1. Baltimore 2. Kansas City 3. Buffalo 4. Houston 5. New England 6. Pittsburgh Wild Card weekend (6)Pitt @(3)Buffalo (5)NE @(4) Houston Divisional Round (3) Buffalo @ (2) KC (4) Houston @ (1) Baltimore Conference Championship (4) Houston @ (3) Buffalo I have Houston over NE and BAL. On their best days they can put up points, but their defense isn't great. Until I see Josh light up NE, I really don't want anything to do with them in the playoffs. Our defense seems to be able to slow down the best of offenses, but we struggle against stout defenses.

There were 7 QB's at or over 60% in 1996. Elways 61.6% was 5th highest in the league at the time. There are currently 26 at or greater than 61.6%. There are currently 4 at or above 70%.

I’ve asked for that too. But honestly the only solution is for the NFL to push Kraft out and sell the team. If the NBA can do it, so can the NFL.

I saw another thread go down a rabbit hole regarding Allen's Passer Rating vs. the league average. Decided to take a quick look at how he is stacking up against teams average defensive performance instead of average QB rating for the league.I threw our defense and opposing QB's in there as well as QB vs. QB differential. Just some notes: Allen vs. Defense differential- Red performed Below average/Green Above QB Performance Average vs. Actual- Red played worse than average, Green Played Better Opponent vs. Average Buffalo Defense- Red, Defense performed below average, Green, Defense performed above average. QB Differential- Red is in opponents favor, Green is in Allens favor.

I don't think they are protecting Josh. I think they are protecting the team. You can't win games where you don't move the sticks and turn the ball over. The last few games from Josh have been based around him no effing it all up like the first pats game. Josh has a difficult time seeing it then throwing it on time so he either throws the ball late/behind or holds onto it too long. He'll also go for the home run ball over the first down throw 8/10. These are things that need to be worked on every single week regardless of opponent or point in the season.

So what's happening is, the coaching staff has been like, "Oh man, you could be great, but don't be great, definitely be mediocre and struggle to score points. You know since the defense is fantastic and all. Only be great when the defense is not awesome. We can't have both the offense and defense play at a dominant level. We will let you know when you are allowed to play at your full potential"

A good look at his history. He started using Xanax and Codeine in 7th grade. Gangs at 15. Then some ass-hat-coach at Baylor helped Gordon cheat his drug tests so he could keep playing. When you start using prescription meds at 12/13, you really don't have much of a chance against being an addict. Then add gangs at 15, and adults helping you keep your addictions going from 18-20 so you can be "successful".

At this point I feel bad for the guy. He just can't get out of his own way. It is sad really.

wellll.....shhhhhyyytttt