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Jesus, can’t win here. No. I legitimately don’t think he has been a quality passer very often. I think he’s had good placement and touch the last two weeks.

I’ve been critical of JA. think he has played very well the last few weeks. Much better in terms of placement and controlling his velocity.

I am not sure I have watched a Bills game where the refs have been so blatantly tried to throw the game.

Brady bounces, Manning looked like he was almost running in place. To me, Josh’s pocket presence nor footwork look like either TB or PM. I do however notice that he takes super long strides when making his drops.

Really? I see the Bills either winning, or losing and not covering the spread.

The division is in play, only in that we can win more games than NE this season. We have virtually the same schedule, we lost to Philly and Cleveland. NE beat them. We HAVE to beat Dallas and Baltimore to leap frog them, and then beat NE in NE. More or less winning out. NE does not have an NFC game left on the schedule. So if they only lost to us, they would take the tie breaker from either SoS or SoV. We would tie in H2H, Division, Conference, and Common Opponents. Buffalo losing to Philly and Cleveland doesn't help. New England only losing to Buffalo down the stretch gives them the edge for both SoS and SoV. We would need them to drop an addition game from Houston or KC. But then we have more wins. Division is ONLY in play if Buffalo wins out and NE drops 2. If we lose the Baltimore game, NE would then need to lose 2 in a row to Houston and KC, then lose to Buffalo at Gillette. Only option is to just flat out win more games than BB and TB.

I am watching this Monday night Baltimore game. I would rather not play them, but we have to. That’s concerning.

I went through the playoff machine last night to see what it would take to win the division. More or less, as it stands now, Buffalo has to win more games straight up over NE. That’s even if NE lost to Dallas, and Buffalo beats Baltimore, NE, and Dallas. We would be tied for common opponents (CLE and PHI), Division, and conference. Best chance of winning the division is Buffalo winning out and NE losing g to Buffalo, Houston, and KC. 13-3 seals it vs 12-4.

If the defense has one of their bad games against the run/Zeke, it will have to be.

My living family can tell you stories of black homes being burned down for moving into white neighborhoods in south buffalo. It isn’t dumb and people shouldn’t just get over it and move forward, because it isn’t all equal.

Well considering we are about a generation and a half removed from redlining being a legal practice and coaches telling black kids they aren’t smart enough to play QB, I think it’s OK to celebrate their successes on their own. You may not “see color”, but others do and it has very real consequences.

I hate these threads.... "Hey, I grabbed some random data set and compared our guy to some mystery player. Can you guess they player? What do you think about it?" Just say what you are going to say man. You think Josh Allen has been better than Tom Brady, and here is why. That is what your thread title should be, and that is the actual conversation you want to have. ...or that isn't the conversation you want to have, because you don't actually think that, and this is a LAMP.

A few weeks ago his wife posted on social media about a stalker. I’m hoping they aren’t related.

Just got the update via ESPN. That could change things a bit in a bunch of ways. While not condoning, it would make some more sense to the sudden outburst. Feel free to merge with the other Garret v. Rudolph thread if need be https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28130757/during-appeal-myles-garrett-accused-mason-rudolph-using-racial-slur

Rudolph got in a scuffle. It happens. Worst case scenario before the helmet swing was probably offsetting penalties to both MG and MR. How a flag wasn’t thrown when MR got hit is beyond me. MG took things to a totally different level. Nothing that happened was worthy of MG’s actions. This is very much a “but did you see what she was wearing” moment for some people.

I get the whole MR went for Myles Garrets helmet first. I have 2 thoughts on that: 1. Mason Rudolph didn’t succeed in taking his helmet off and then also did not swing it at anybody’s head. 2. It was a late hit and MG was driving the QB into the ground. Both penalties. The whole thing looked like a scuffle on the ground, that happens sometimes in football. Not a huge deal until.... I am with Tomlin on this one.

Don’t drive like my brother!

This sounds exactly like a situation buffalo has been in before. Trade deadweight...because. Eat a ton of dead cap. Pay the replacement similar cash. Get less production (although different roles). Still be weak at the position. God, I hope we don’t go through groundhogs day with this...

Agreed totally. If we could spread the defense out a bit more, that would open up the field for more chunk plays with his legs.

Agreed kind of, just because he runs up the middle like an RB or TE would. This year makes me especially nervous since he seems to have caught the fumble bug. I don't understand why there aren't more QB's as good at the QB sneak as Tom Brady. I know, he is the GOAT/nemisis. It is just a weird skill to have for such an immoble QB. For 15 years he has been the best in the business at it. Not only does he do it the best, he converts it at an astonishingly high rate, and had 6 different starting centers over his career. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21158057/the-dying-art-qb-sneak

I agree. He’s a talented runner. Reminds me of Cam when he takes off, in that he isn’t built on speed and shiftyness like a Vick or Lamar. I think in 2018 he used his legs too often to bail him out of his arm/eyes. I feel like I see Allen late to make reads and in 2019 is either throwing bullets because he’s late or holding the ball too long. Allen should run more, but needs to also become a better passer to be a forever solution for Buffalo.

We are going to have something like 90M in space next year. Isn’t this the entire reason we went 6-10, so that shite like this didn’t happen.

I think we are in the same place on this one. Better does not necessarily mean good enough. I do think the OL is average overall. WRs are just below. I don’t think either are terrible or flat out bad. Last year was terrible for both.

Im not speaking to you specifically on this, rather your point that others have made regarding JA’s ranking in 2019, being due to a bad supporting cast. This years WR and OL are exponentially better than last years. If supporting cast is what’s holding him back, at what point is supporting cast also responsible for his improvements? Honest question. I think we will have a very good idea next year by week 8. If the improvements are marginal, than I think it’s cause for concern and we should have a better vet backup to take the reigns if need be. To me he will have to play Miami good vs. teams like SEA, IND next year.