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Mango

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  1. You must have missed my PSA in another post from fellow teammate Buffalo native, 4x world champ, world record holder, and olympic gold medalist. Where she hasn’t been back to fork year from February/March (this post was from JULY) and she has teammates with similar or resumes who are doing much worse in terms of measurable performance. Sure their elite status might keep them out of an ICU, but it may likely cost them their career. Forgive me for being blunt (or don’t, I don’t care) but get your trash opinion about the effects on elite athletes vs. the general population off of the internet where others might confuse them as facts, and keep them to yourself until there is literally any shred of evidence as to what you are saying is true. Reposting: My COVID experience: This is going to be a long post, but I've seen so many people talking about how the age of people infected with COVID has trended downward and that means we're fine. So I thought it was a good time to share my experience with the virus so that people connected to me could read a 1st hand account of the impact of a mild/moderate case of COVID on a young, healthy, fit individual. In case you don't know me, I am an elite athlete, a 4 time world champion in rowing and I won a gold medal at the 2016 Olympic games. I'm currently training for the Tokyo 2020 Olympics in 2021 now. Back in March everything was changing so rapidly. The virus started spreading in the Northeast US where our team was training for the Olympics. It was an incredibly stressful time and we were entering our last 2 month stretch of selection. Everything started getting canceled, my dad found out he was going to need surgery and radiation to remover cancer from his face, and officials were insisting that the Olympics would definitely go on as planned. We were told that the Olympics don't get canceled (turns out they can be postponed though). Our team continued to train following the local guidelines as they rapidly changed throughout March. I was definitely concerned about the virus and what we were hearing was happening in Italy and other countries, however I considered myself and my teammates low risk individuals. I couldn't tell you the last time I was at a bar or another crowded place. Everything I do, especially in the Olympic year is all about recovery and being in the best position I can possibly be in to make the team. So my social circle is really small, almost completely limited to my team and USRowing employees. NJ issued a stay at home order on March 21st. Our entire team took ergs and weight lifting equipment home with us and I started training on my porch. 2 days later we received an email that a USRowing employee that most of our team was in close contact with tested positive for COVID. We were instructed to quarantine for 2 weeks following our last interaction with that employee. I had worked with the employee who at the time was not showing any symptoms 3 days earlier. I started my quarantine and was so thankful that I had done a massive grocery haul a day earlier. One by one my teammates (ages 23-37) started showing symptoms of the virus. I didn't think I was having any symptoms, but I did notice that I was having a hard time breathing when the intensity of my workouts started increasing and that I was starting to sleep close to 12 hours a night, but I didn't have a fever. So, at the time I attributed the difficulty breathing to erging outside in the cold and the extra sleep to the fact that the Olympics had just been postponed and my entire focus for the last four years was no longer close to 100 days away. As most of my teammates started to recover from their acute COVID symptoms, I started noticing a fever on April 1st. That was Day 12 of my quarantine. Our team doctor told us to look out for anything over 99.0 because their practice had seen people testing positive with fevers as low as 99.0. On the night of Day 12 I had a baby fever of 99.2, so I texted our team Dr. to let him know. I genuinely thought it was unlikely that I had COVID because typically people were showing symptoms days 4-5 after exposure. So I thought that the elevated temperature was probably just a fluke. The next morning I woke up, I felt great, and I never had a fever that entire day. Friday April 3rd was a completely different story. I slept over 12 hours that night and when I woke up it was painful to breathe and my entire body ached like I had done something really wrong while I was practicing the day before. That day my fever ranged from about 100.4-101.7. I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs without needing to sit down and take a nap. Not only did I sleep for 12 hours that night, but I also took a 3 hour nap. I was too weak to make myself food that entire day until I forced myself to make pancakes that night because I knew I had to eat something. The next night I slept for 12 hours again. It was still painful to breath and I was still extremely exhausted and unable to do simple household tasks. Thankfully, though, my body aches were gone that day. These were the 2 days where I had the worst symptoms, but just because these symptoms improved after 2 days doesn't mean I was fully recovered from COVID. It took the rest of April for me to be able to train normally again. I took 4 days off from training while I was sick and in hindsight I wish I had given myself the freedom to take more days off if I needed them. When I first started trying to work out again I tried doing a 30 minute jog. My heart rate was really high and I felt like I was running through water. The jog was meant to be light and a small attempt to get my body moving again, but it was so difficult I had to stop after 20 minutes. I am used to doing workouts that range from 80-120 minutes. I don't give up easily and I was just near my peak closing in on final selection for the Olympics. Now I couldn't even jog/walk for 30 minutes. The next day I tried an easy erg. The best way I can describe what I was feeling is when you crash and burn on a workout because you didn't fuel your body properly. My legs felt fine, but I felt physically faint and shaky and not ready to do the workout. I completed the workout by taking one stroke at a time and allowing myself to be as slow as I needed to be. The entire month of April was a big struggle for me to workout. Things improved to where I was able to workout consistently, but I had to go 10-15 splits slower that I normally would on easy workouts to control my heart rate and make it through workouts. And for reference, 10-15 splits is a ton, that basically meant I was erging at a pace of an average high school girl. I still didn't feel like myself and always felt like I was carrying 50 extra pounds when I was working out. Things didn't really improve until I went for a run the morning of May 2nd. All of a sudden I felt light and like I was in my own body again. It felt like a complete 180. While I felt normal in my body again, it has been a long journey to get back into shape. As of today, over 3 months after my symptoms went away, I am working on getting back into the shape I was in in early February and March before all of the setbacks. While it only ? took me a month to feel like I was in my own body again, I have teammates who were dealing with complications from COVID for over 2 months. So if you don't think the virus is that big of a deal because you are young, healthy, or fit, please consider my story. My guess is that my teammates and I are at a minimum healthier and fitter than most of you and it knocked many of us down hard. I have personally never experienced any other illness like this. I have never been knocked off of my feet for an entire month before. Please wear a mask to protect yourself and the people around you. I am hoping to donate blood plasma to help a person in need. We're all in this together and the more we can do small things the sooner our lives can get back to something resembling normal again.
  2. I could Be wrong here, but regardless of TV contracts, if they try and start the season and get a few weeks in, they’ll still be on the hook for roster bonuses, work out bonuses etc. That part of the contract is independent of TV revenue. A ton of players will get their bonuses. The NFL will probably push to have performance bonuses extrapolated.
  3. My biggest issue with this is the NFL hasn’t reported any league wide testing outside of orgs and players making it public. (Obviously HIPPA exists) It is half way through July and they haven’t reported any COVID cases as per of any league mandate. Why would I suddenly trust them to honestly report it come September, October, etc. say we make it to January, are they reporting it then? We are weeks away from training camp. Leagues trying to start up are reporting regularly, but not the NFL. Proportionately they should be at about 90 cases and crickets.
  4. Based on dollar value in no particular order. It said spend $15 not only 5 players. Any offense should be good enoug to win more than they lose with this. I’d take these 6 over every bodies 5. TO ($1) Woods ($2) John Brown ($2) Fitz ($2) Lynch ($3) Moulds ($5) Valuation in this meme is a disaster.
  5. Squatty Potty field gets my vote of all the poop accessory brands.
  6. I had a huge crush on Olivia Munn in the newsroom. I watched a bunch of her YouTube videos, ineterviews etc. after and found her super annoying. Very pretty, yes, but not my cup of tea outside of that. Rather be with somebody that I actually like.
  7. Right, other than the word "Bills" there is nothing linked to Bill Cody. So I think that is a bit pedantic. Everything is just a Buffalo/Bison. There would be zero need to change anything in their brand.
  8. Whatever. Go for it. It really doesn't matter. The Bills don't actually use Bill Cody in any marketing, mascots, etc. at all. Just rename them Buffalo. We use a Buffalo on the helmet, all of our marketing, mascots, t-shirts, imagining on the score board etc. I wouldn't "change" the name. I would just drop the Bills part. We can be like Madonna. We are just Buffalo. Literally nothing would have to be different.
  9. I agree with both you and @ScottLaw. Largely the defense played well, or at least well enough to win that game. But Watson also had his way through most of the second half. They couldn’t get off the field and allows a bunch of long drives. Ie. Only 5 incomplete passes. Offense botched that game first and foremost. A better second half from the offense probably gets a better performance out of the defense.
  10. “Anything less than your best is a sacrifice of the gift”- Steve Prefontaine Love that one. Funny story: I was living at the US Olympic Training Center. They built us a new boathouse and wanted our feedback on quotes to paint on the walls. As things do, it devolved with locker room banter and quotes that were inappropriate. Obviously the USOC was taken off the chain. Well.... I replied all to the original thread accidentally and sent “**** “beaches” make money” to the entire BOD at the USOC. Long story short, I had to write an apology email that I still get crap for from friends and it’s been almost a decade. Moral of the story, never reply all.
  11. Somebody posted those predator looking masks earlier. I’m curious if they move from the steel cages to those plastic masks with respirators if there’s any effect on impact to the head.
  12. It will take some getting used to, but athletes in tons of other sports have PR’d with full on respiratory masks while testing/measuring their VO2MAX. Obviously a ton of variables for that to happen, but as long as it is the same across the board it’s no different than playing a game in Athens in August or in Maine. Everybody is on the same field, on the same day, with the same weather.
  13. I can’t wait for the guy who said that the Execs in this poll were guys like the VP of communications for Seattle and the players were the long snappers. Bueller? Bueller...
  14. I know this conversation moved on, I can’t get over JJ Watt. He won’t wear a mask because he couldn’t breath with a VISOR on his helmet. He’s just blatantly lying. Wearing giant sunglasses on his helmet in now way effected his air supply. I wish he would have just said he thinks masks are stupid and he’ll sit out because of it. At least he would have honestly taken a side for everybody to see. Instead he’s just gaslighting. It has actually been bothering me for two days now. I guess he won this one. Haha
  15. Come on sheeple, pay attention to what is going on around you! The masks are to keep the 5g poisoning inside of your respiratory system. That is why there is a right way and a wrong way to put a mask on. If it is just the same all the way through, why would they even have a "backwards or forwards". Wake up! Also Ron Paul said stuff. AND my neighbor is an audiologist, I know its basically just a graduate degree, but she makes everybody call her doctor, so I know what I am talking about!
  16. I mean, I posted it, thought it was clearly a bit of hyperbole. But Watson lit us up in the second half and came “pretty close” 250 passing 2PTD 55 rushing 1 RTD. That’s probably closer to what I was talking about. In all honesty, I am not sure how many times a QB’s has ever put up 350+ passing and 85+ rushing and 3TDs. Other than playing Madden. If I didn’t hate the team (and if there was actually going to be football this year), I would probably watch a lot of the pats just because I am curious what BB does with an athlete behind center. EDIT: Just searched it on PFR. Literally no QB has ever thrown for at least 350 yards, 2TD, 85 Rushing yards, and a rushing TD.
  17. This is vague. I also don't know where it is coming from. As somebody who has dealt with the athletic dept. at each Ivy league and knowing what "big revenue" is for athletic departments, sports are not a big revenue generator. Endowments can have some difficulties being tapped into, but just to note, Harvard and Yale are 2 and 3 globally behind the Catholic church. That said, football and basketball are revenue generators in that they provide events for alumni to donate, but Ivy's don't generate much revenue at all with athletics. In 2018 Harvard took in $1.4 Billion dollars in donations. So their $30M in athletic expenses is a pittance. They also have a ton of head coaches and faculty that are more or less double paid. They get their salary from the school and their seat is endowed, so they get both. This is just a wildly incorrect statement.
  18. I am a little meh on that. Just because I know schools are struggling financially, and football is seen as a quick fix. On top of that, not terribly thrilled with the reporting from the NFL. We have reports of a handful of players/coaches with COVID in the NFL. Peyton, Von Miller, and Zeke. The NHL, MLB, and NBA are at least giving total players infected. They are at about 30 each as of earlier this week. Just based on roster size and practice squads, the NFL should probably be in the 70-90 range, and that is giving them the benefit of the doubt.
  19. Buff State Athletics seem to be unsustainable, and they reference that it is in line with NCAA and SUNY guidelines/mandates. Athlete tests positive, everybody they come in contact with is in quarantine for two weeks. https://coronavirus.buffalostate.edu/sites/coronavirus.buffalostate.edu/files/uploads/PDF/restartplan.pdf I read through the guidelines in the link below. Maybe there is something a little more authoritative out there, but I didn't see it. The link is not as strict as what Buff State is doing. http://www.ncaa.org/sport-science-institute/resocialization-collegiate-sport-action-plan-considerations
  20. They are "trying" to get all the freshman on for the fall right now. But that has not been confirmed. Same for seniors. Everybody else is off campus.
  21. I think it is probably best for teams to tell friends and family to watch from home. This whole thing seems to be held together with frayed string anyways. Why risk having your QB's wife around the environment and then taking anything home. Even if it is by happenstance.
  22. I mean honestly, I don't know how this works. I couldn't imagine a solution that gets 1500 players, plus coaches and staff together, and completes 16 games while traveling to other states and co-mingling, playing, etc. Really, the only way I could see it working without a team or two having a total disaster (at minimum) is taking the entire league to Tokyo, repainting the unused soccer fields, housing everybody in the unused Olympic village, and not let anybody in or out for 4-5 months. (this will never happen) I just had this discussion earlier with a friend. But it seems like the NFL is not reporting active cases among players like the NBA, NHL, and MLB. Those leagues are 30+ players infected, which should put the NFL at 70-90ish. Outside of Sean Peyton, Von Miller, and Zeke, it is crickets. Hell even Clemson was like, "boy we are effed at the moment. Hid your kids hide your wife" If this continues, and there is a league wide outbreak because of lack of transparency, they might find themselves in the same place as they have with CTE, where they are actively suppressing information.
  23. They didn't need any more words after this, other than not losing seniority/seats for not attending the 2020 season. We should all agree that having zero people in the stadium is without a doubt the "safest possible environment for spectators".
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