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That’s actually a reasonable concern. It seems he is well under not just his normal, but under what might even be considered an acceptable weight to be an NFL TE. The internet claims he only lost 23 lbs, but on 6’6 frame I would think would look less drastic. I used to compete nationally/internationally at a weight specific sport and I would allow myself to float about 20 lbs during the holidays. I’m 6’2 and it was not nearly that drastic. Hell, I am about 185 lbs now, 8.5% of my body weight would put me to about 170 and people would barely notice.

Don't get me started on the Buffalo Renaissance not being a real thing. It is just something people keep regurgitating until everybody believes it is true. Buffalo has not grown by almost any measure. Increasing level of kids in poverty every year. House house income is stagnant. Household income in comparison to the national average is actually getting worse. And as a result everybody that is screaming RENAISSANCE is actually causing one of the largest spikes in the country in terms of % increase in cost of living. But to your point. The city gave TPegs a huge tax abatement and drastically undervalued the property that the Harbor Center is on when they sold it. From a former Erie County Budget Director, "The city will NEVER make that money back" It is absolutely wild...This is not the thread for that though.

You are correct. He dipped out of the OG industry nearly a decade ago. I am sure he has some investments, but he cashed out to the tune of nearly 5 BILLION dollars. He is currently over leveraged his worth because he has done a bad job of managing his investments in sports and hospitality. I would not be surprised if he were relatively cash poor (or as cash poor as a billionaire can be). The whole thing is a bit wild, kind of like a mega millions winner who declares bankrupts after blowing through 200M. The Bills will be fine, but if he does not figure it out, I would not be surprised to see him move on from the harborcenter, the sabres, PSE management group, etc. https://www.forbes.com/profile/terrence-pegula/#12385c013cc7

This is a weird slide and obviously never should have been included in any presentation at any level. If one of the Pegula's presented or signed off on them, shame on them. It sort of reads "Win Games---Turn the business over to my kids/Generational wealth---Don't make me sell my yacht". I am honestly not sure how else you read it. The title of the effing slide is "Pegula Family Goals (PSE)". Based on the content, it definitely does not read as "PSE is a family". This is tone deaf to say the least...

Sure it does, it is no different than a start up reaching out to a VC already involved in oil and gas for money in exchange for equity.

I fully agree with all of this. And Terry was absolutely thinking that way when it came to natural gas. Probably in part because he was so strong at the science side, he was aware of his short comings on the business side. However, if I were to guess, this is Terry's play toy of sorts, an attempt to venture out on his own. Sort of similar to Jerry Jones, but with less meddling. It is his opportunity to create a major family venture within hospitality, entertainment, sports, etc. that his immediate family can be apart of.

I could not tell you how much the family is worth. I can tell you they have at least 3 homes and a full time staff for a yacht on the east coast. I would guess worth much less than Terry, but was absolutely a business partner in the venture, not an employee. He would not have purchased this Bills because he most likely does not have a billion liquid. The joke was that he was working with Terry and always had the inside line in knowing the Bills were not going anywhere.

I’ve posted this here before, but it is important to remember. Pegula is NOT a business man, he is a geologist. Pegula made his fortune by finding and digging natural gas. He did not do it by running a successful business. He had a partner (a Buffalo family) who did all of the negotiating, hiring, firing, financing, etc. so that Terry could be silo’d as finding natural gas. I have had some people role their eyes on here at this, but I promise you this is this case. I’m actually very good family friends with the family in question. I have known them since I was a kid (1980’s)well before the Pegula’s purchased any teams in Buffalo. I should note, said family has zero involvement with the current Pegula’s PSE ventures. This is Terry’s pet project. We used to joke as Ralph got older, and his death was becoming more of a when not if that “The Bills won’t leave Buffalo, xxx’s dad would never let that happen”...but it wasn’t really a joke.

I think it moved a little bit

I mean I would rather do Kim, but to each his own.

Agreed. More than anything I’m just curious what he has left in the tank, if anything at all. For all the criticism that followed him around, fitness, work ethic, and drive were never part of that conversation. If he thinks he has the ability to still contribute in this league, I’m tempted to trust him. Signing though...that’s a different conversation.

I think Star and Murphy’s are paid too much for their impact. Once those come off the books, it seems they will be spending around average. I haven’t seen the FA pick ups wear a Bills jersey, so I’ll reserve judgement until then. We don’t seem to have a “star” on the DL, but we do have a lot of above average to very good players on above average contracts. It’s not a bad place to be.

Can you imagine this place if we trade that pick with Mahomes and Watson still on the board, and don’t re-sign the guy (Tre) we traded down to select instead. Hahaha

This is why I am not too worried about the QB position. I’ve been critical of some of McB’s moves in year one and two, but all in all he’s done a good job with the roster. They’ve also shown a willingness to be aggressive in the draft. Allen will either show he’s the guy over the next 2-3 years. Or he won’t and our FO will go get the next guy. This doesn’t have feel of a full FO turnover if he doesn’t pan out. All we have to do is not draft more Zay Jones and trade for more KB’s.

It’s really difficult to split his role as a GM from his role as a coach. He’s taken the Pats* to 9 Super Bowls, 13 AFC championship, and 16 divisional titles. He’s doing a very good job of finding guys to do things he wants them to do or be. His WR picks have been particularly bad. But I’m not gonna call a guy who put together a roster with those kind of numbers “meh”. He’s done a great job with the Pats*. And it hurts to say that.

Boy, we are really in the meat of a drought eh? Finding a GM is hard or there are other factors that we don't know about that might be at play...The reality is that just about all professional sports teams owners don't have the qualifications to be making roster decisions, which is why most will use their leagues resources to help find somebody who does.

I don't think anybody told him he "doesn't belong". He has a ton of physiological gifts, comes from a well adjusted middle class family, with a blue collar work ethic. I think the consensus is that he wasn't refined enough. I am sure every coach from his days in HS all the way to the NFL and Jordan Palmer have told him that. This is not some new premonition where he is like "woah, my mechanics can be messy and it is really effing with my ability to be consistent". Chances are he has been doing what he thought was enough vs. what was actually enough to make those changes. He has sort of been the classic case of being a gifted athlete in a pool of mediocre athletes and relied on his physiology. It doesn't mean these things can't or won't change. They can and hopefully will, but will probably be a windy road to get there. Inversely, look at a guy like Lamar Jackson, who went to Petrino with the sole purpose of learning to be a better passer. Who thought "if I want to be the player I think I can be, I have to be better in the pocket and under center." Which is a bit different than "so you don't think I am good enough"

Its never been that they don’t care. It’s that they haven’t let their sports people do sports work and get out of the way. Whaley can’t hire a coach. Ted Black isn’t in charge. Terry needs to find his hockey McBeane. Until then he will continue to be the Lenny Smalls of NHL ownership.

This is weird to me. There is nothing more dangerous than a guy who is playing for his and his families livelihood. Where if this doesn’t work out, others will fail. Allen has no more edge than any kid who busts his a$$ in grade school because the only way he sees to get him and his family out of poverty and danger is making it to the NFL. Josh grew up blue collar. He’s tough as nails. He’s built like and ox, and his family worked him like one. But let’s not make his story to be some wild rags to riches. He’s tough, he’s driven, and he’s competitive, just like thousands of other players who’ve come and gone in the NFL.

Yeah. I’m not adding any additional hardware and guesstimating based on basically a single use case/environment. On top of that assuming they run on NFL servers which should already outfitted properly. Those GOV contracts are huge. I actually used to work with RSA quite a bit on them. I’m just sort of rounding numbers from a few years ago from RSA’s Archer and I am actually doing a bunch of work replacing zoom for telehealth clients. There isn’t a need here to consistently update and communicate constantly changing sensitive information between 100’s or 1000’s employees on a minute by minute basis.

Zoom is a stupid product with really great marketing. There is a reason they have a Zoom Government that is NOT AVAILABLE to corporate users. Because they only produce a single secure product and don't have the bandwith to do that at an enterprise level. Microsoft TEAMS seems to be doing an OK job with security. Vidyo does a great job with security and is one of the only HIPPA compliant products out there. This is not rocket surgery and people are expecting it to be oddly expensive to protect your data at an enterprise level. A company the size of United Health Group probably spends a couple million per year on securing their servers, telecommunications, etc. But they have some extra hoops due to HIPPA compliance as well. That might sound like a huge number, but they do $14B in revenue and have 300,000 employees. Each franchise needs what, 30-50 people with a secure connection on draft night? Most likely it is a user count license done through the NFL not each franchise. If they secured through the teeth, it will cost MAYBE $150k for the draft and that is total, for all 32 franchises to be on the same system, and they will all be licensed through the entire year.

My post above this reply insinuates something similar. Pegula doesn't actually want anybody in charge. Before McD he was letting Russ run the product like an absolute idiot and putting If it weren't for Terry loving McD the BIlls would be a disaster right now as well.

I think this is the problem with the Sabres. He needs to get his hands off of the team. Obviously he has earned (bought) the right to do what he wants when he wants. But it is to the detriment to the success of his investment. Lets not forget when he extended Regier he said things like "nobody has a monopoly on hockey brains" in the organization. He spoke to Regier more than anybody else in the organization, and referee to their conversations as "scheming", and Ted Black called the management structure flat, not top down. He has been a terrible owner of that team. And until Russ diddled some interns (or something like that) he was doing the same thing with the Bills. Russ was his Darcy. Then there are great owners like Steve Bisciotti: "There is a difference between being involved and being in charge," Bisciotti said. "I want to be very involved. I just don't want to be in charge. You can't hire talented people and overrule them with less talents ... like myself."

not to beat a dead horse but his fumble rate is 1.2%. For reference Emmitt Smith fumble rate is 1.3%. Not that Yeldon is Emmitt, but he’s not fumbling all that much. He’s also never fumbled more than twice in a season. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YeldT.00.htm

The league has been quite about it but I have to imagine they have contingency plans for 12, 10, 8, 6 week etc seasons planned. Imagine a 6 week season, divisional games only.