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That’s sort of what I’m thinking. Also I can’t find anywhere what stadiums are selling ticket wise vs. capacity. I’m gonna take my chances and wait this one out.

Has anybody been to a Thanksgiving game? Curious about ticket prices and timing. There are going to be 6 of us. Looks like we are $250+ to sit way up high. I’m thinking sticker price is high since the season is just kicking off. I can’t imagine NO is all that great with either Hill or Winston. I’d expect to see a price drop. When I lived in OKC I thought of hitting a Dallas game on Thanksgiving just because it was something to do. They were a quality team, Romo was playing, and I could grab tickets the week before at sun $200. Any thoughts?

I’ve never been to NOLA but we are psyched. We just booked a 3 bedroom house for the Thanksgiving game Wednesday to Sunday. Figured we can fill the rooms with other couples, friends, etc. in short order. Also it let’s us piece out the cost. Place to stay, tickets, flight, so it doesn’t feel like one lump sum. If anybody is considering it, I’d start looking. We got our Air BnB, whole house, 3 queen beds, 300 bucks per night. Most stuff is 3-500, not too crazy. I bet it starts to go up as things begin to open and tickets go on sale. I’ll be following this thread for sure.

Well somebody has a bee in their bonnet. I hope Singletary and Moss have huge years. It means we didn’t waste 2 3rd rowing picks in a row on a position that still needs upgrading. In a weird way I think we want to hope it’s the RB’s and not the OL. That can at least mean we can approach it like the QB or WR room of 2017 and shuffle some people around. Don’t make the same mistake twice kind of thing. But if the problem is 80% OL like you say, we have MAJOR issues from the FO down. Because it’s not a “whoops we missed on a draft pick here, and over valued a FA there” it’s a “We went out and picked up the highest paid OC in the league, grabbed some other FA’s, then re-signed our guys to some pretty major extensions”. We have the 3rd most expensive OL in the league now”That’s a major failure in talent identification, cap management, scouting, coaching, etc. I mean it’s possible. We let Wyatt Teller get away. But we should all really hope this isn’t the case. All the best Mrs. Singletary.

So, like, sarcasm is a thing.... I don't think we need 3 new running backs, no. I don't think I have ever said that either. I am in the Singletary is not good enough a RB to do what the Bills need him to do camp. I think it is difficult to have a good NFL backfield with two slow shifty guys. Moss has some more physicality to him than Devin, and for whatever reason it looked like Moss also is a little more explosive. I find DS hesitant at times as well. I thought Moss was the better back in 2020. I am most certainly not rooting for Singletary's failure. In fact, I am very much rooting for his success at the moment since he is still part of the RB stable. I don't know a ton about Brieda, so as far as I am concerned DS is still very much the lead horse in the running for RB1. "I told ya so's" are worth much less than wins to me. But it is an internet message board, so I have done the message board thing and have (gasp) given my opinion on some of the players on the roster at times even if they are at times unfavorable. Sorry to offend Mrs. Singletary.

Hi Mrs. Singletary. Devin is a nice young man.

Oh, cool, I was hoping he could get heavier and slow down some...

Did you find a divorce attorney yet?

Well that is wild. Also awesome. Jerseys during that era were nearly identical too. You can make an exception for out of conference teams. Hell, even out of division teams.

But he has Sunday ticket.... This reminds me of a guy I used to work with when I lived in OKC. He grew up an OSU fan, but he said he was also an OU fan. I asked how the fudge that could be the case. Like I could be a fan of both because I was just a transplant. But you can't just grow up a "fan" then also suddenly be a "fan" of your cross town rival. His response was "My wife got season tickets through work, and you can't go to X OU games per year and not be a fan". College football fandom is weird to me sometimes. It is also a good reminder that every town, team, school, etc. thinks they have the best fans in the world, but most don't. Most don't. You would almost never catch a GB fan rooting for the Vikings. I can't imagine really anybody in the AFCN getting season tickets to any other team. But Patriots fans? Sure they'll root for the Bills when the wind blows the right way. Some people just don't get it.

Right, but you also miss like 4-6 Bills games because you are at the Jets game and the Bills play at the same time. Seems like you are most certainly losing out on this deal.

That’s back to back to back HoF QB to you sir! The level of disrespect Greater Buffalo Sports Hall of Fame legend and former Packers starting QB, Don Majkowski, gets around here is unbelievable. Shhh, people are too busy sharpening their pitchforks.

Bills were undefeated in all white last year. I also think they look slick.

I mean, we drafted Josh when Nate Peterman was in the building. So who is to say…

Maybe, maybe not. There were something like 18 RB’s drafted, and this seemed to be a weak class in a weird year, so he has as good a shot as any to be better than “a bunch”. (however many that is)

Also, seems like the NFL should not try and hold any games in London this year. Seems like the logistics and regulations around international travel are still a bit up in the air. If I were the league, I would pause the series until 2022.

Good call. I originally read it as Tampa @ Dallas so I did not even consider it. I think Buffalo @ Tampa is as good a match up as any on their schedule and put the odds the same as Dallas, Carolina, Atlanta, and Chicago. It is kind of wild that it seems the Bills might have a 20% chance of opening the season with NFL Kickoff.

It is Tampa @ NE. I wouldn't be shocked if the league went divisional and Carolina @ TB especially with Darnold's new home. I don't see a Taysom Hill/Jameis Winston led Saints team opening the season in TB. Maybe Matt Ryan and the Falcons or Fields and the Bears? I think Buffalo vs. Tampa is the best home match up on their schedule. SB contenders vs. SB champs. Unsure if I want the Bills to open the season for the league. I would prefer to low key get on a role before heading into Primetime and a full stadium for the first time in a year.

Looking at the TB opponents Buffalo stands a good chance at opening the season in TB.

Not to mention with the way the last year and half has gone players from lesser programs get an even smaller look than usual. I didn't watch a ton of UB games but reading some scouting reports I get why he would be a borderline UDFA. Ran a 4.51 and is small. Not a great pass catching option. Hesitates to hit the hole. Does not trust his running lane. Takes a long to accelerate out of cuts. That said, even though we already seem to have a version of him on the roster, the kid seems to have a huge chip on his shoulder. I would not have been mad if Buffalo took a flyer in the 7th or UDFA.

I think the Bills list of needs will be about the same next year. I don't see the RB room performing exponentially better this year. With the way McD brings along rookies, national pundits will still say DE is a major need. I think DL and CB become more of a priority next year.

Right. I have largely been looking at cap dollars by group across the league. Projecting Edmunds at $15M + Milano put the Bills in the top 5-7ish range in terms of LB spending. That is just two guys and not accounting for Klien/depth. We just don't get the return you would hope for based on that sort of resource allocation. Part of my fear there probably comes from having the most expensive DL in the league for almost no return. We don't have near a top 5 LB corp so I have an issue with an extension that allocates resources as if we do.

This is a fair take. Most of the head scratching will be whether or not people grade Tre vs. Mahomes or Mahomes vs. the class as a whole. My only disagreement in your grading, and it is super minor, is Peterman. The dude was a dud, don't get me wrong, but I look at most picks outside of the 4th as "meh". If you find value, great. If you don't it's the 5th, 6th, 7th round. Those picks don't work out all the time. Tough to hold it against the FO. Sure, there is always a guy there that turned out to be a stud, but it's not wild that a guy drafted in the 5th 6th, 7th don't make it through camp. If it weren't for actually naming him the starter he could still be our QB3 (what a wild thought).

I think most of us who aren't either, "Edmunds is the best" or "Edmunds is a bust" agree here. Most of the back and forth is just value in dollars. He has major talent and is an athletic freak. Keep the dude around. I just start to scratch my head at any long term valuation that starts to exceed $12M by a large margin

I think the changes to the Pro Bowl have DRASTICALLY devalued getting selected to it. I like Edmunds, but would agree the estimations on an extension, and maybe even the 5th year option, are higher value than his actual performance. I am fine with the 5th year tag. I think Edmunds is closer to an $11M value than $12M and change. But I won't split hairs. Some of the estimates I have read at $15M + seem absolutely wild. But we aren't there yet.