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Yeah, I couldn’t swallow that sentence while he was with NE. Out of conference, it is easier to say. He’s hands down the best player in NFL history and it’s not close. Everything about Brady is a good Buffalo story…if he played here. On and off starter in college. 6th round pick. Tells the owner on day one he’s going to be the best decision he ever made. Unseats Bledsoe. Wins a Super Bowl. Takes team friendly deals on the regular. Buffalo hates Brady because he tortured us for a decade. But the boogyman is gone now guys. We don’t have to be scarred.

You can’t actually believe some of the points your making right? The post office…compared to an NFL franchise? There are people around this country who would never receive mail if it weren’t a public service. It’s a necessity. A bunch of non-profits dedicated to science and advocacy…compared to a family who sat in front of their employees and said one of their main tenants was to maintain family life style. You have to pay for a stamp so what’s the difference between that and Paying Kim and Terry? Gotta pay to see the Pandas so we can keep feeding them. So we might as well pay Kim and Terry. I would rather give the Buffalo Zoo and the Science Museum $1.4B than give it to the Pegula’s. I would rather invest it in schools. Hell, I would rather insulate sleeping bags full of dollar bills and give those sleeping bags to the homeless than give $1.4B to Terry and Kim. I think it might actually be more bang for your buck. NFL stadiums have too many bells and whistles. They don’t need need 10 LED walls scattered around. They cost too much. And at scale should not be publicly funded. That goes for any city. I get they provide some immeasurable value to our lives. I actually don’t hate that the state/county helps out. But having public funds brochure anywhere near $1B is absurd. For value received back I think a 70/30 (Private/Public) split is super fair. And the Pegula’s came in at 100%. Ha!

Your math doesn’t check out here in a number of ways. $2000 per ticket holder, and 70k ticket holders, only gets you to $140M. $50 per ticket holder doesn’t get you to $2000 or anywhere close to it. To your overall mapping of affordability. It’s almost as if the League and NFL franchises want to the public to help cover costs to build a stadium that doesn’t make any economic sense. Like at all. Teams and the league are asking for structures that don’t actually fit their business model or local economics. In any other industry, something like this would never be considered. Also roads, libraries, parks etc. provide a service. The NFL does not. I can’t go have a picnic at the 50 yard line today, or any other day for that matter. But I can walk down the sidewalks I can go get a book. I pay taxes, I get a service. With a stadium, I pay taxes, I can buy a ticket? I don’t even get free parking.

I know it’s sacrilege but I think mine would go: 1. Brady 2. Rice 3.Brown 4. LT

Came across this today because I saw a tweet about Reggie White being the no. 5 player all time and thought, “oh cool, Brice must be right around there”. I was wrong. Bruce (20) and OJ (41)are the only Bills on the list. If Reggie is 5, Bruce deserves to be in the ball park. Or at least closer than 15 spots. I think OJ is under rated here. But he’s also a murderer so I don’t have a complaint. I think Thurman not making the list at all is disrespectful. The top 4 aren’t listed yet. Off the top of my head and just scrolling through, I think it’s down to Brady, LT, Jim Brown, and Jerry Rice. https://theathletic.com/2685622/2021/09/04/the-nfl-100-the-athletics-pursuit-of-the-best-players-in-football-history/?source=user_shared_article

Beasley and Star are stupid. Like I think they’re legitimately unintelligent. Star has to be the only player who opted out AND didn’t get vaccinated right? Beasley can’t figure out how to keep his mouth shut. He isn’t any sort of activist or martyr. I agree with you, those guys will most likely be replaced without some major change. I think Beasleys replacement is on the roster already between Stevenson, McKenzie, and possibly Sanders moving to the slot, and move Davis outside. I do have some concern about Milano and Davis as two young guys.

The Buffalo helmet is interesting. Buffalo could be the first movers in the NFL with it. The NBA does a bunch of city specific uniforms.

My first real response here Gold, Silver, Bronze medals or Buffalos for HOF, All Star and Vets. We are about to basically be in back to back to back Olympic years. The Josh Allen Buffalo drawing for one of the lower ranks.

Shut up! I NEED MY FAKE INTERNET POINTS!!!!! Its an internet message board about football. Relax.

I double checked this. I thought you might be right. It’s Ko Simpson. Short for Yukota. He’s worth millions, he can spell his name however he wants.

I like the idea of Ko Simpson being the probation icon.

I get it Davis is better than Hodgins. Just saying that the receiving Corp could be even better than they are now with a healthy Hodgins. There is a chance We have Davis and his twin on this roster at some point. Also, Davis wasn’t flying under the radar. He wasn’t some secret weapon. He was was super hyped at camp. Reporters were allowed and we heard all about him. Got this on the first page of Google. Davis is the no. 1 take away from training camp. With terms like “if you haven’t heard if Gabe Davis yet and you’re a Bills fan you have been living under a rock”. And “Davis is this years training camp darling”. https://www.google.com/amp/s/13wham.com/amp/buffalo-plus/bills-latest-news/top-five-takeaways-from-bills-training-camp On this board last August we had guys talking about betting on Davis for ROY and comparing him to Moulds. And this thread about JB talking about Davis and Hodgins teaching him the playbook.

The hype for Hodgins at camp last year was just as high or higher than Davis was. I’m anxious to get him healthy. It’s been an unfortunate path for him. They are both about the same size and speed. Hodgins is about an inch taller and 0.05 slower over 40 yards. But is much more explosive in the 3 cone and 20’yard shuffle.

I think the mods are wrong on this one. This isn’t a misleading title at all. In fact, it might be the most perfect title in TBD history.

I generally agree, especially now. I do use Kodi on my firestick. Trying to hide my torrenting.

Water, sewer, electric just in terms of utilities. Water run off and corresponding erosion. Roads will have to be re-evaluated based on traffic needs. Not just width, signals, etc. but depth as well. Other cities absolutely had to do the same sort of planning and infrastructure upgrades. I agree with you on calling the Pegula's bluff.

Right, fair point to an extent. Largely I was referring to @Just Jack way overvaluing the resale of anything in the stadium. These things don't sell at the scale assumed, and the cost to sell them at scale is immense. Some things will be sold as memorabilia but a small fraction of the stock available. Again, there is somebody out there selling the Bills turf for over a decade. For reference. This is the Aud, 10 years after it was closed, about a year or so before tear down. Everything stayed in, just sort of rotting away. There is minimal resale value left at that point even if you use the decaying stadium as storage to piece out its parts. The aud was knocked down with what likes like near full seating capacity. TV's and refrigerators were left behind. There is no real money to be recouped in resale, at least not enough to put a major dent in tear down or past upgrade costs. It is a niche market that does not scale. http://www.forgottenbuffalo.com/forgottenbflofeatures/insidetheaud.html

This is mildly reassuring. I don't mind PSL's for club and suites. It is relatively non-committal though. I wouldn't be shocked at PSL's for the lower bowl, which is a bummer.

I do not believe this is included in the cost for the new stadium but the cost to raze the Ralph is probably going to be about $10M. The Aud seats sold for about $300 a pop, and that is secondary market. So somebody had to come in remove, transport, and store them. The county could possibly sell those seats to somebody else who will bring them to market. If the county is lucky they can sell the seats at $100-$150 ea. to a vendor. But I actually wouldn't be shocked if the county makes $0 on those and actually loses money on it. For reference, I bought a bunch of coozies last year made from the old field that was torn up in 2011. There is also a cross fit gym in Buffalo that purchased a huge slab and use it as their floor. 10 years have passed and the field still has not been totally sold off, at least at a reseller level. Imagine being a vendor and having to sit on product for a decade and still be reselling it. The county might not even make any money on the seats. The labor, logistics, storage, and resale time frame are so astronomically high that it may be part of the bid that they reduce the charge for removal, but they own the seats. So they get paid to remove and keep them. But lets say that the county gets somebody to pay them $100 per seat to remove them and keep them, at 45,000 seats (assuming 1/3 of the 70,000 are bleachers) it won't even cover the cost to tear the stadium down let alone recouping $130M in upgrades.

Quoting myself here. But I should add, not just from a location perspective, but a security and legal perspective, anytime you are torrenting or using an unapproved feed for anything you should most certainly be using a VPN. A VPN will help protect any private information you are either sharing, transmitting or storing on your computer AND it will keep your ISP and/or authorities away (however unlikely).

I always think it is weird that so many marginal players end up in SoCal like Barkley. I mean he is from there. Went to college there. His wife the same. So this one makes more sense. Also it is a great place to live. But also, the guys income will be pretty severely depleted from here on out. Median home cost is like $2M plus. it seems like an expensive place for a guy with a family and not much income moving forward. I don't know. I am 34 and my student loans won't go away, so maybe I am jaded. Haha.

Barkley has made ~$12M over his career. He can afford something nice anywhere.

Changing your location on Google works for local broadcasts. I have a ExpressVPN as well. Some apps are getting smart to that though and won’t work right if you’re running it, which I find VERY annoying just from a general security and privacy perspective. The “danger” of “sketchy” feeds above is way overblown. You don’t need a special computer or to go to Starbucks. A VPN will do you just fine. Scoping out some of the more “reputable” feeds is worth while though. If you can find soccer, tennis, cricket, F1, etc. to test them out before kick off, it relieves a lot of frustration. Back before there was a streaming option and I lived in OKC I used to have a good rolodex of sources that were quality. I can try and dig them up and PM you. Reddit is always a good source for sites are that regularly streaming in HD. I coached for a while so one of my former athletes are in med school so they help me out with DTV.

Maybe at 26 years old Webb wants to actually keep playing football and not coach. Wild, I know. I think he looked like a better than competent QB3 this year in P3. (As far as 3rd stringers go) He’s also athletic enough to be a good role player on the PS prepping for more mobile QB’s. I would suspect as injuries come down, other players get cut, etc. that we don’t finish the year with 2 PS QB’s. At the very least only one of those guys will probably be on the Bills roster/PS in 2022z

I agree to an extent. But I’d add there are different levels. At least more than Tyreek and everybody else. It seems like Brown doesn’t have a ton of juice left in the tank. We do have a bunch of guys in the mid to low 4.4 range. So I don’t think speed is an issue. If I had to guess, Stevenson will fit the JB mold as he progresses and/or gets healthy. Very similar size and speedy. McKenzie is a tough sub because he’s so short. Gabe Davis is a quality receiver, but too slow to put in the “take the top off the defense” bucket in the mid 4.5’s compared to JB’s mid 4.3’s at the combine. Bills are fine with speed, hands, and route running over all. I’d like to see them add a dynamic guy or two with some more size to play on the outside next year.