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I am super unsure if this is sarcastic or not? I don’t think I came close to implying that like at all… But also, McD was pretty level headed there….

It has got to be frustrating to him for a ton of different reasons. He has built his career here on stuff like, “process” and “team”. Which for a year he probably thought would favor the Bills. But that’s not the case at the moment. He has far less control than he realized (not a criticism). I’m sure he wants to shake these guys like crazy. It’s probably very personal to him right now.

He did finally come out and say something along the lines of “I am passionate about doing what I feel is right for this country and that is getting the vaccine”. Which is about as spicy as McD gets.

The one thing to yours I would add is that I don’t think the team is cool with “Beasley gonna Beasley”. But he has a higher cap hit. I thought Mckenzie was always insurance against CB raging against the machine. Or even Sanders inside and push Gabe outside. But we literally cannot do either right now.

Per Spotrac McKenzie is only a $350k against the cap I believe. I actually REALLY like the guy as a player. But we can’t have both our slot guys missing time at the same time. It’s just too much of a risk. I would think Stevenson makes the roster for sure now and try and get Hodgins on the PS big time. The need to make up for 3 of these guys could really put a dent in another position group.

That’s really frustrating for a whole bunch of reasons. From a football perspective they are both playing the same position in the slot. It’s not unreasonable to think that both get 4 games at some point. Then we have nobody. Mckenzie could play himself out of the league or at least off the team since he is on a one year deal. Plus Gabe Davis isn’t vaccinated. Envisioning a worst case scenario where all 3 miss 4 games at the same time isn’t great.

I’m in the minority here but I like both the all whites and the all blues.

I largely agree with you here….except for WR…. I think that 90’s WR group is tough to pin down because of notoriety, production, and the way we used them. Beebe was so fast it’s tough to pin him in the slot like Beasley. The guy ran a 4.25. Nothing about Don Beebe was a slot guy. In terms of needing a guy to play the slot, I get taking Beasley over Beebe. But in terms of X and Z. I think I probably go: Lofton > Diggs. Lofton is a true HOF. Diggs could be to. But not yet. Too early to put Diggs over Lofton. But his production in BUF vs. GB are worth noting. Reed > Beasley. Come on. Andre changed the way slot receivers played. Not a true outside guy. 100/100 Andre over Beasley Beebe vs prime Sanders is close. I don’t know what Sanders has in him at the moment. The current groups depth is much better so I give them the edge there. But those starting three, especially Lofton in his prime? 2/3 are HOF’ers. Beasley isn’t sniffing the HOF and Sanders will be in the Hall of Very Good. If you put together your starting 3 WR in Bills history, we are probably arguing between Lofton, Reed, Moulds, and Diggs (in no particular order). I also don’t think our current LB room is a “very good” group. I think they’re OK. And if Edmunds gets what he is projected to, I think they’re overpaid based on production. But I am not terribly he’s up on that idea. I could be convinced otherwise. Especially with a breakout season from Tremaine.

I like the current WR corp better than the 90's. But the 90's D is in front of the current defense until proven otherwise. I think Thurman, Davis, and Andre are huge mismatches for the current defense. But given our WR corp we may be able to put up enough points, especially with Josh being so mobile.

It’s really neither. The team itself won’t market these. Like at all. But there are people who are always going to autograph conventions, etc. who like stuff like this so it’s just a couple of decals and they’ll post it in an online store and/or sell to card/collectible stores/events etc. Even on NFLshop.com, there are a million helmet variations. It’s meaningless. Also, these blow. Gross

Hopefully the anti Maybin who was a sack ARTIST. Here is to Groot being a SACK artist.

Last week. Just a dumb thing to say after a pre season game. He may very well turn out to be a stud. But I’m glad he was less than great today after that.

“It was actually kind of slow to me” - Justin Fields, talking about NFL game speed. ”9/19, 80 yards, 2 sacks” -Justin Fields against the Bills 3rd and 4th string defense.

Right, that’s literally the point. , Jim Kelly was 10 when Kelly’s Hero’s came out. And was in his mid 20’s when the reference was made. Now we are using the the same Kelly’s heroes for a guy who was negative 25 years old and doesn’t even share a name sake. So I made a joke about changing mid-90’s to early 2000’s pop culture references.

Ah, I just sort of thought “mid-90’s” and rolled with it. I think there are only two that are pre Josh Allen birth. Reservoir Dogs and Saved by the Bell.

Can we not be that fan base? Imagine going to KC’s or TB’s board and seeing that. We’d be taking about how absolutely insufferable they are.

Can we at least get something more culturally relevant to JA17? The movie literally 50 years old. At the time the Jim Kelly poster was put out, it was nearly 20 years old. And the poster was done 30 years ago. (What a very Buffalo thing to do. “Hey we did a thing over a generation ago. Let’s do it again but with the new guy”) Ideas that are also 20 years old but way more relevant: Its Always Sunny in Buffalo Josh Meets World Saved by the Josh Allen Josh Allen: End Game (not 20 years old) Wet Hot Josh Allen Summer Josh Allen Dogs Saving Private Allen Master and Commander (that one works on its own) Men Who Stare at GOATs

Im too young for Butkus and Nitschke. So I can’t talk to where those guys land in relation to Bruce. I will say Bruce is the all time sack leader and a payed DE in a 3-4. Is unprecedented. I am tempted to give the edge to Bruce there because of it. But no way I put Ray Lewis over Bruce. Not in a million years. Ronnie Lott was great, maybe the GOAT safety, but I take a DE over a DB all day in any era. Reggie White, LT, Bruce? All three were so different in the same era. We’re splitting hairs.

A couple of fine Canisius HS grads and Bills Mafia members, being real poo holes about older women wearing masks alone on a train. Ryan Bartels and Nick Sam. Class of 2012 I believe.

Groot seems to be having a good camp. Basham can kick inside too. But I read this and can’t help but think of JOK in this defense.

My general thought is, the defense will live and die by the front 7. (Crazy I know) But we have depth issues at DB and have invested a poop ton into DL and LB. the secondary depth will continue to get worked if we don’t start hitting on those draft picks and FA$$$ in a very big way very soon.

Thinking about this today. The Bills defense was relatively mediocre last season as a whole. Given the continued investment in this years and past years drafts, what are the expectations for the front 7 this season? Is there a line for pass/fail based on draft and salary cost? We have invested: 3x 1st round picks in Edmunds, Oliver, Groot. 2x 2nd round picks in Basham and Epenesa A major extension to Milano. 3rd highest paid DL in the league for 2021 (source: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/breakdown/)

You're crying about his crying, about others crying about vaccines. So now I am crying about your crying, about his crying, about others crying. Shut it down mods, this is getting out of hand.

That is a good one. Also the Arkells are another great Canadian band.

Because the Goo Goo Dolls are not a good band. They're from Buffalo, so the city embraces them as we do all things Buffalo, regardless of actual quality.