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Just now, Beck Water said:
Your opinion is duly noted.
A logical person might point out a few things - starting with the fact that I went to the entymological root of the word fan and common definitions of it, then moving on to the point that I did not say that was MY definition - only that one really can't call something faulty logic when it's based on a commonly understood meaning of a word - and in fact I make clear that I consider the admittedly negative Newcam2012 a fan
I really don't want to interfere a bit with your froth of righteous indignation, though. Did you have to work yourself up to that, or did it come naturally, like a fine poop? Has this been building up for a while? Did you feel better afterwards? A sense of release? No, never mind, I don't want to know.
Yeah, I'm gatekeeping fandom. Sue me. Someone who's negative and admits it, like @newcam2012, can be a fan to me. Someone like Filthy Beast who is unrelentingly negative and rooting for other teams to win to our detriment is not a Bills fan. Neither is he objective or credible. And if you find that condescending and disrespectful nonsense, I 100% can live with that.
In fact, it really won't bother me a bit, that's how comfortable I am with that judgement. Feel free to read my posts or ignore them, as best suits you - but I really think frothing on about HOW I FEEL and MY MOTIVATIONS TO POST, both of which you know nothing about, says way more about you than about me. That's not one I need my hypothetical logical fallacy cheatsheet to decode - that's called an "Ad Hominem", where a person personally attacks the arguer, rather than the argument.
Cheers!
What a blow hard.
I cannot believe your response is to dig your feet in, get on your high horse, and continue to patronize people.
I am not participating in your delusional discussion about what a "real fan should be" because I find the discussion self serving to you. I am not having any sort of ad hominem discussion because I actually do not care to discuss this topic, as I find the entire idea of you force-feeding us your holier than thou essays about how woefully misguided other fans are when compared to yourself disrespectful.You are conflating my attempt to discuss your behavior as an attempt to somehow out wit you or win this argument. And that is far from the case. I am discussing your behavior because it sucks and you should cut it out and stop looking down on people.
Get over yourself and participate in a real conversation that doesn't prop yourself up as some sort of arbiter of intelligent thought or Buffalo Bills fandom.-
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4 minutes ago, T master said:
This time of the year the Bills home jerseys should be the Red Uni's because of the same thing that happened in the Snowvertime game if the Bills wear the Red uni's and the opponent has to wear white & it snows instant advantage Bills ...
If Mahomes or any other QB that comes to Highmark and has to play in a snow it is harder to pick out your guy if it's snowing & they are dressed in white so IMHO the play off home jersey's should be the red uni's to add to the HFA . Even though they have the red helmet to see in the snow it could make a difference .
I think KC's red helmet more or less negates this.
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10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
"Being critical" isn't the issue here. Most of us are critical at times. Being publicly unrelentingly negative and critical is the issue. One can argue the point as to whether someone being consistently critical/pessimistic/negative in public makes them less of a fan. It's really not my main point here, but I'll just point out that "fan" is short for "fanatic", and like its root word, is supposed to denote a person marked by "excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion", in sports by extreme enthusiasm or devotion to a team.
So yeah, at the very root of the definition of fan, someone who is unrelentingly and constantly critical or pessimistic actually may not fit the definition of fan as many understand it. In addition, in a human relationship, someone who claims extreme devotion and love but expresses that with unrelenting criticism, pessimism, and negativity is considered to show toxic or even emotionally abusive relationship behavior. You consider it "flawed logic" to call someone who is overthetop and unrelentingly negative and critical "not a fan" only a unique, personal definition of fan where unstated devotion and support are combined with unrelenting public negativity and criticism.My main point is that one of the claims made by Filthy Beast is that he is objective and credible. Go back and look: do any of those quotes from Twitter support a claim of being objective or credible?
1) believes NFL is fixed - "no way the NFL allows anything but a Chiefs vs Ravens/Texans AFCCG2) praying the Jaguars win so that the Bills "team and coach will be exposed in the biggest of moments" - how can even a critical, negative fan pray for outcomes negative to his team?
3) don't waste time with PFF crap (one source of supposedly objective performance ratings). the OL has played like *****. Now, league average rush yards per game are 112.7, so in the previous 3 weeks, the Bills generated an average 166 rush YPG which is impossible with a ***** OL...does that sound objective or credible?
That FilthyBeast guy is simply not objective or credible, and for you to say "you have no idea whether he's credible or not" and then dismiss evidence to that point, is flawed logic - on your part.
As for you:
You openly acknowledge that you are extremely critical and think for the worst. I totally respect you as a fan for acknowledging this. You aren't claiming to be objective and credible. That's fair, one of the roots of being a fan(atic) is that one isn't usually objective and credible. Stepping aside from the above point that one can make a logical argument that being extremely and unrelentingly negative and critical may be incompatible with being a fan by some common definitions - I can live with a fan who is negative and critical if they acknowledge it.
I do think that you need to look at yourself if you can perceive that you're wearing overly critical and negative blinders and not blame "past trauma as a 50 year Bills fan". Some of my earliest memories in the early to mid '60s are watching the AFL Championship game with my Grandpa. So I've been a fan 59-ish years. We certainly lived together through some very bad Bills times. Grandpa is gone now, he died in 1987 and missed the epic Bills teams of the late 80s/early 90s. And yeah, I have some BBFS (Buffalo Bills Fan Syndrome PTSD). But I don't let it govern me.
This is a lot of words to say “I am gatekeeping what proper fandom is”.I actually find this rant and especially the bolded borderline reprehensible. How dare you come out on the internet and recommend how one should and should not be a fan.
Jesus Christ.
I do like a lot of your content Beck. But this is low brow and disrespectful dribble. Shame on you. Thumbing your nose at how fans should and should not be thinking.
I now can’t see anything you bring to this board as condescending and disrespectful nonsense only to make your self feel better and smarter.
Worst post of the year and January isn’t even over.-
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1 hour ago, The Wiz said:
Just saw on WGRZ that tickets prices are 2-3k for the best seats and around 200-300 for the cheap seats (not including the fees that are applied).
God blessed you if you can afford those.
1. I think they’ll drop. Those are wary prices out of the gate.
2. This game could be more expensive than an AFCCG in Baltimore or Buffalo.
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1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:
I'm feeling very ominous about this game. I don't view that things are lined up all that well other than Josh had a great game and we're at home. I want someone to give me reason to feel better about this matchup other than anything can happen.
Let’s wait to get some coach speak on the injured report. I think we will all be a bit peppier when we start seeing Dodson, Davis, Douglas, and Rapp as full participants.-
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4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Bolton and Gay are pretty good playersOr you can view it as the Eagles were at home and hopefully some of the calls go our way.
I just started taking a very shallow dive into Shawn Hochuli and I actually think you might be right. At quick glance I get the sense he backs the home team at a pretty high rate. But I will have to spend some more time with this.
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5 minutes ago, boco357 said:
Son of Hochuli
Jesus Christ. Maybe...just maybe, we can hope that Hocculi has to level this whole thing out after the Philly game. Kind of like sometimes ref's throw flags for make up calls, hoping this one is a make up game.
WTF am I kidding, the Bills are 1-3 vs SH.
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28 minutes ago, The Wiz said:
Also, it isn't wrong. We do have to keep feeding it.
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I think Tua is a "nice QB". But when QB's get extended they generally reset the market. Tua just isn't a $40-$50M QB.
Flip Tua with Allen/Mahomes and I think Miami is the hands down 1 seed and Buffalo/KC miss the playoffs all together.This also applies to Hurts. I think Philly is the 1 seed with Allen/Mahomes and both teams miss the playoffs with Hurts. He is just Tyrod Taylor but stronger. Hurts will get Sirianni canned because of his extension kind of like how the Wentz deal cost Pederson. (over simplifying)
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2 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:
Well I just got an email from my 5 year old daughter's teacher who had apparently been telling kids at school all morning that her dad "hates the chiefs" and that "she's part of the mafia". Mind you, we are in the St Louis area and for some reason people here have adopted the chiefs. Anyway the teacher said we need to tell her not to use such extreme words at school
I would respond with:
Dr. Mr/Mrs. Chiefs Teacher,
I appreciate your diligence in looking out for my daughter. We sincerely appreciate your work and empathy all year. I will consider the possibility of addressing this with (insert daughters name) sometime next week.
Sincerely,
STLBills13
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19 minutes ago, MainEvent said:
Is weed legal in New York now? Trying to decide whether to fly with it or if I can pick something up in Buffalo when I get there
It is, but NYS requires it to produced/packaged in NYS so the product offering isn't up to the same level as California, Colorado, or even Massachusetts.
I am not a cop, or anything, but flying with a reasonable amount of weed in your carry on isn't a big deal. TSA and local law enforcement have all but said "meh, just don't be an idiot". I think CA caps it at 3.5g's. I do think there is something to putting it in your carry on vs. your checked bag though.I fly with weed quite a bit in and out of the state. Never straight flower, not that I wouldn't or that I think it matters, but if I am traveling I don't want to deal with grinding and rolling anything. I have flown with tons of rolled joints, vapes, and edibles. I once asked TSA what they do with the weed in the amnesty bin and the guy laughed at me and said "nobody has ever put anything in there".
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3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
With our kicker, I don't think it matters how good a holder Martin is.
I actually think it matters more. Very little room for error.
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A friend of mine is a limo driver, I guess the itinerary is already flying around that Taylor Swift is confident that the Anchor Bar are the best wings in the city and refuses to go anywhere else, despite a number of recommendations otherwise. She said the only thing holding them back from being the best in the world is that they aren't served with ranch.
Also, they are due to stop at Gabes Gate, but she is refusing to try the wings there. Instead she said she is a sucker for super dry roast beef that sits under a heat lamp in a closet, so beef on weck it is.
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27 minutes ago, Codyny13 said:
The Bills have done well in the absence of Davis, it has allowed the tightends and other receivers to make plays. That being said, Gabe is a good player and our best blocking WR. Going forward the Bills need to see that they can win with multiple personnel packages, but that being said, I’d love to have him back this Sunday. He’s been a chiefs killer in the past, and allows us to do different things.
Gabe is a great blocker and has a good mix of size and speed. He is a phenomenal player for the specific role he should be used on this team, and any team would struggle to replace that role at $3M.
People are too caught up in WR 1/WR 2 production. We saw Brady be dominant with a couple of TE and a great slot receiver. Mahomes used the same formula. Everything doesn't have to be about the outside guys. -
Josh is about as locked in and calm as he has ever been in his career.
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10 hours ago, Warcodered said:
I don't think it's that complicated Benford is good, Douglass is very good, and Elam hadn't played since his injury, figuring it out with him in the Playoffs was probably plan D. Which of course we landed on. But next man up and he may be getting his footing again.
I totally agree here. I was speaking from an Elam centric perspective. I think he is a good player that needs more live reps for himself. The team is in the playoffs with a very deep secondary, the team needs him to make that leap with his practice reps.
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With all the Gabe stinks this and Diggs is toast that, I think this offense is working how it is supposed to work, it is just more efficient this way. The ball doesn't have to go to WR 1 or WR 2 on the outside. We have 2 or 3 very reliable pass catchers in Diggs, Kincaid, and Shakir/Cook. Everybody else are role players. Make the defense cover everybody.
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35 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:
If he was “gassed” do you not think he would have subbed someone in? C’mon that is how he was asked to line up.
No, I don’t think the best player on defense comes off the field on the last 2-3 plays of the game unless he asks for it.
Starters will play normal reps with broken legs before a back up comes in to relieve them.
Oliver looked gassed on the last series.
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6 hours ago, chongli said:
And maybe once or twice in 2026 too, depending!
Speaking of Ed, he was gassed at the end of the Steelers game. On the last few snaps he was lining up like 2 yards off the line of scrimmage standing straight up.-
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2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
Worried about the injuries. Worried about our kicking game.
Not worried about the Chiefs.
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Just now, Buffalo716 said:
Bojo calling his own fake punts and had a good amount of 20 yard shanks cost him his job
He did not have a lot of botched handles... And nobody is getting rid of a punter because of holding duties if he has a leg actually
He was the most inconsistent punter in the league... Would bomb at 65 yards then 29
Bojos biggest critique in Buffalo and GB was his holding duty. A lot goes into a good hold outside of flubbing it.Sure, if you’re Shane Lechler you could get away with being a dope on FG’s because you’re like the best ever. But punters do in fact get released because they aren’t good holders, especially when teams have a good place kicker.
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9 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said:
Might be even worse for next week.
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Just a reminder that Araiza has minimal to zero holding experience at any level.
Bojo was a decent punter here but holding cost him his job.
Give me a guy with a slightly above average net punt and a long career of holding for field goals outside over a guy who basically ended up being a camp leg 2 seasons ago and never held a meaningful field goal in his life.
Reassess in the offseason if you want but not this playoff run.
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1 minute ago, SCBills said:
This dude makes zero sense ha.
…Balled out last playoffs.
…Bizarro season where he’s hurt, maybe, doesn’t play.. can’t get on the field.
…Forced into action due to injury in a playoff game, again.
-Gets trucked
-Insane penalty
-Flawless defense and filthy ball skills, pick
-Holds his own the rest of the game
My best guess is that the kid has a higher ceiling and lower floor than the rest of the outside guys.
He can ball.
But he needs more reps.
McD likes the operating windows of a couple other guys better. Less risk.
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Kansas City at Buffalo in the Divisional Round!
in The Stadium Wall
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Bahaha. Very fair. Also hilarious.