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Right, I agree. I was just adding on to the poster I was quoted. I don't think he really goes anywhere, but it is an interesting trade piece to ponder because I think we could fill in the gaps if we HAD to and it meant upgrading the OL.

This is why I dislike the Miller rumor. Those draft picks are upgrades to the interior line.

That could happen but only because I think the rest of the WR stable is capable. You can move Davis outside and Sanders to the slot, and get the same production out of the group. Or you can keep Sanders on the outside and have McKenzie, Davis, Stevenson in the slot. I doubt Sweeney plays a role in this. He caught some passes, but he was not nearly as athletic as Knox. He was "capable" but a significant downgrade.

In the last 3 drafts we have dedicated our top pick in each to DL/DE. Plus Basham in the 2nd and Philips in the 3rd. Throwing a 2nd and a 3rd at a one year rental for Miller seems like an over allocation or resources for the production we are getting. (although improved this year) I am glad this didn't work. A second and a third would cost us upgrades at OL and or CB.

I like Beane, but he has us overcommitted at a few position groups with less than top end performance which has me concerned going forward. I am mildly concerned at going after Von Miller. We are crazy invested into the DL already. We can't be crazy invested into DL for the past few seasons, AND go give up a 2nd and a 3rd for a one year rental. The investment into another DE/DL would basically cost us a possible starting CB and OL next year or two OL. I wouldn't mind asking about Miller if we didn't invest a 2nd in AJE, 1st in Groot, 2nd in Basham, 1st in Oliver, and $8M in Addison. A second and third for Miller would be basically admitting you hate your previous 2-3 years of major investment in your DL.

Wasn’t a huge fan of the taunting. Could have been a flag. I heard the Dolphins did that to the Bills after the first three and out of the game. EDIT: That makes the whole thing make a bit more sense. I would not be shocked if Josh gets a flag in the next few weeks as an “all right settle down” moment from the refs.

Congrats to the dude winning 125k tonight

That is a funny story from Manning. Hoping Josh is more entertaining in the next segment.

Fixed that for you.

This is true of a couple position groups. The Bills push the top of the list on OL and LB spending as well, and we don’t get elite production out of either.

I think he will regress. But he is in a cool spot since his contract is up this year. The next few weeks could set him up for the rest of his life. Even if he signs a one year $5M contract for 2022 and never plays football again. He can invest it, never touch it, and retire by 45 comfortably living off the interest for the rest of his life.

Flag or no flag live, stuff like that deserves a suspension from the league, ASAP. No place for that.

This is important. An Edmunds replacement will either cost a high draft pick or a decent paycheck. I am in the camp that would like to keep Edmunds, but I really dislike some of the valuations I have seen. We currently have the second highest paid LB corp in the league, and next year with the option we are the highest. We should have better production from them at the price, especially when you consider how many 2 LB sets we play.

This is funny. When nobody tries to stop an NFL player and if that player makes a good decision, then that player makes good plays. Shouldn't that be the expectation for any player who goes unblocked and makes the right read on they play?

Unsure if you’re joking, but Flacco will cost the Jets less than Glennon, Geno, Mills,Colt McCoy. $1M for a backup QB is cheap.

I think for the Phins fans today, they see this as the beginning of their futility. Sort of like the 98 “walk off game” where the Pats went for two with no time on the clock. I think they’re wrong. I didn’t love the Allen “waiving bye” thing. Never give anybody a reason to try and beat you. A friend at the game told me the Miami D started the game with the same gesture. I’m more ok with it now. I get their frustration here but it’s misplaced.

The grade was for a conditional 6th. And it’s actually Tampa’s 6th from a trade the year prior. It will be a low 6th. Jets take $1.1M of Flaccos salary. Acquiring Flacco was basically free by NFL standards. If Flacco doesn’t play, it won’t cost NYJ anything. Jets take on $1.1M of Flaccos salary.

I think there is a real chance we split with the Pats.

Tell me you don’t follow the Bills without telling me you don’t follow the Bills…. That was 3+ years ago. September of 2018.

The line has not been good enough at times but we don’t do a ton well that takes some of the pressure off. We have to get the ball out of the QB’s hands on plays that developer quicker. You can also almost guarantee we are running the ball when we line up with Davis, Kumerow, and Sweeney. We did a better job of making plus literally with swings and screens. But it wasn’t until we started firing quickly to Beasley underneath that everything started to open up for us. I have been beating this drum all season and last. Our quick passing game, or lack of it, is hurting us just as much as our RB’s or OL have.

Jerry deserves to be a Bill for life (sans trade). He’s still got a decent amount of juice left. I really hope they can make something happen that works for everybody for another season or two. I’d hate to him in another jersey.

I thought it just sort of happened that way because of the high snap.

We are really slow to adjust. I think sometimes the issue is the play call and sometimes it’s Allen not taking what’s underneath and putting us behind the sticks.

First half, I think 2-3 key players had bad first halves that really held us back.

I would have kept the TO there.