Mango
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As a very slowly decompress from last night I find myself remembering how frustrated I was in the second half.
Cook was getting stuffed often. KC had adjusted to the run.
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3 minutes ago, zow2 said:
The fake punt was so dumb I actually LOL'd in my family room watching it. I can see a 4th and 1, maybe? But he had so far to run. It's almost like McD or whoever called it wanted to create a Damar Hamlin moment to show on the ESPY's as the Bills use the fake punt to win the game and go on to win the SB.
I hated it, and was so happy that we got the touchback and didn't have to point to that play as the reason we lost.
It was crazy to go for it, but if you are going to do that at least go down swinging and put the ball in Allen's hands.
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3 hours ago, peterpan said:
Some people will never be happy.
Our D couldn’t stop them at all. So he goes for it on 4th down. Which is what this board has been begging for for years.
Agreed. Martin was hobbled. The defense was broken and beaten.
My biggest issue was taking Allen of the field. If we’re going to go for it put it in the hands of your best player. Line up and make them stop Josh Allen.
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Possibly if healthy. Not if we rolled out another mash unit.
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This one hurt pretty bad. We should have had this one.
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51 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:
They also gave him underneath option that he had plenty of time to hit.
That was the 14th play of the drive. That’s an eternity by NFL standards.
Taking the score there is fine.Otherwise we’re saying “you know what the Bills really needed? A 20 play drive” that’s just not reasonable.
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7 hours ago, DapperCam said:
They are dunking on Paramount, a direct competitor.
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7 hours ago, Beck Water said:
OK, I was asking about this because I didn’t have the stomach to Wade through all the post game stuff. Did Diggs bail out of the locker room and refuse to make himself available to the press, again?
He doesn’t have to talk, but he’s supposed to be in the locker room during press availability.
Wow. Had his man beat. Catchable ball is right there.
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4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
Sign Higgins and draft a big fast WR in round 1.
Diggs, Higgins, Shakir, Kincaid, 1st round rookie, Cook... That's a nice offense.
Then sign Henry at RB as a compliment to Cook. Awesome 1 ,2 punch.
Gotta stock the talent at WR so teams need to respect the deep ball
Id actually prefer an aging Evans if the cost is right. I don’t think it takes “much” to sign him short term compared to other WR numbers.
That said, I’m irked Diggs didn’t meet with the media after a tough loss…again….
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10 minutes ago, Punch said:
Yes, but he’s not free if we don’t move on. He costs $28M to keep him here. So it’s $3M more to move on that it is to keep him. This is a super important distinction.Now, we are close against the cap, and that is a fair point. But his contract on its own is movable.
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58 minutes ago, Murdox said:
Diggs is an elusive route runner and very good at finding space in zones, but he doesn't really have the elite speed or physicality to get consistent separation against many of the top corners of opposing defenses when in man defense. We need to find that #1 so Diggs can shift over to #2.
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Diggs fumble, drop, and no presser and he’s going to cost nearly $28M next year.
Sheesh.
A couple plays here and there would have made the difference. But our high profile QB met the challenge and our WR didn’t.
This offense is become a group of role players, and that’s ok. If Stef is going to be more than that he can’t put the ball on the ground and drop passes that hit him in the chest on the biggest stage.
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1 hour ago, sven233 said:
I mean Allen did everything he could. He was the best player on the field tonight and GOT 0 HELP.....
He's Superman, but even Superman can't throw the ball and go catch it too. Dime after dime.....even 60+ yards down the field and yet, our WRs couldn't make 1 play for him (outside of Shakir.....that guy is our slot going forward). He can't coach the team. He can't kick the FGs. He can't play defense. As brilliant as he is, he just can't play QB and the other 2 phases of the game too.
We need 2 more WRs....... As much as I love Diggs, he's made the transition to a #2 WR. We no longer have a #1. The draft should be nothing but weapons for Allen. He's carried this team on his back for years. He's hid so many flaws in personnel and coaching. There needs to be some serious changes. You are wasting, in my opinion, the best QB in the league at this point. I'm sorry, Josh. You deserve better.
I am critical of Allen a lot, but we got more out of him tonight than anybody should expect of him.
He deserves the ‘Cool Running’s’ slow clap for sure.
He was phenomenal.
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When I look at the fame at a 1000 foot view it came down to some bunch of major individual mishaps like Klein in coverage, Diggs drops, defensive 4th stringers not holding up.
But Bass is also one of those individual gaffes. And given his tenure I expect him to make a 44 yarder. At least give those guys on defense a chance.
It isn’t right to blame Bass. But it’s not right to look over him either.
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This one hurts…as bad as any….on a field goal.
I have been critical of Josh, but he was as lights out and perfect as I ever could have hoped for. A bunch of WR let him down with absolute dimes.
I kinda sorta hated the fake punt, but honestly I get it. The defense was all back ups and bumps/bruises were catching up. Martin struggled.
BUT. What I hated was putting that play in the hands of Damar Hamlin. If you’re going for it you put Josh Allen on the field. Let him win or lose that down.
Heart breaker amongst a long list of heart breakers.
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2 minutes ago, stevestojan said:
That’s quite the ***** theory/accusation.
Cool.Go to your neuro and tell them you got a concussion today then ask if it’s cool if you get tackled by Ray Lewis at full speed next week.
100 out of 100 times they will say no.
Concussion protocol only exists to save the NFL’s ash not because its sound medical advice.
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8 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
Lovingly to Taron I am not sticking him on Kelce. There's close a 100 lb weight difference on the two
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4 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
There are different levels of concussions just like there different levels of sprains.
https://mayfieldclinic.com/pe-concussion.htm#:~:text=Grade I%3A no loss of,for more than 24 hours.
To claim the independent neurologist needs to be the take is slander.
Cool.
Im not a neuro, but I have one at the Cleveland Clinic and another at Mount Sinai, and both have said that the NFL concussion protocol isn’t what they would practice at either hospital.
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3 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:
Agree with CincyBIllsFan. The Bills under McBeane have demonstrated repeatedly their patience and wisdom in bringing players back slowly from injury.
I believe there are teams who would be dressing Terrell Bernard today but not the Bills.
Exactly correct. They don't want to see Tyler Matakevich playing LB in this game. Whether as a starter or a backup, Klein was gonna get the callup.
Playoff timelines are different than regular season. This is the most important home game this team has played in 30 years. This team played Beasley on a broken leg. They’ll let anybody go who gets doctors clearance for this one.-
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1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:
I disagree. The Bills organization has repeatedly demonstrated that they are conservative when it comes to player safety. I have never felt like they rushed anyone back to soon.
Guys in host of other sports have missed 365 + days for a single concussion. The league has zero players with roster sizes 2x-3x.
Take your kid to Dent neuro or the Cleveland clinic the day after their 5th concussion and see if they clear them to play sports 6 days later.
They won’t do it.
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Dorsey was part of building this thing. By all counts he’s a good X’s and O’s coach and a smart guy. But he seems to lack in his feel for play calling. If he can get better at that then he’s a good get for somebody.
I have no ill will for the guy. Good luck out there Ken.
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That’s remarkable. From a pure fandom perspective I’m glad he is a go.
From a human perspective, this is this guys 5th concussion of his career and he can play in 6 days? Nobody in the NFL gives a shirt about player health or safety, and the independent neuro’s must be on the take.
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50 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Gene
I hope it’s an inside job and one of the security guards jumps in.
The pit gets what the pit wants.-
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Soooo. Who is going to the pit?
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Divisional Playoffs - Chiefs at Bills - Post game thread
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Mango
There is a grey area with realistic expectations for any NFL offense. On one hand, we can all sit back and generally say "an NFL offense should be able to execute 3-4 plays in a row." But at some point you have to draw the line for what is a reasonable expectation. You can't just keep adding on 4 more plays for eternity.
The Bills stalled on a 16 play drive. For reference the average drive length this year is 5.88 plays per drive. It is unreasonable and look back and expect any NFL team to execute a 20 play drive with any regularity at all.
For reference, since 2001 there have only been a total of 8 20+ play TD drives in the playoffs or the regular season. Saying this was "part of the plan" isn't reasonable.