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God, Kyle Brandt is so annoying. What a terrible interviewer. I keep trying to like his podcast since Josh is on, but it’s so forced and awkward.

They used Tre as the cover of one of the online game day programs a few weeks ago. Maybe GB? I thought for sure he’d play (until he was listed as inactive)

OK. Now do Chase Young…. Based on the vibe of the Tre White thread, if you’re going to go the “everyone is different” route you should cite both.

I think Beane has done an overall good job. We entered the season as SB favorites and last years KC game proved to be the two best teams in the league. But… I would be remiss if I didn’t mention I had some concerns going forward. We’re tight against the cap, and have over committed resources at some position groups without premier return. Namely our continuous misses at RB and out DL with is good but not elite. Every time we draft another Basham, Groot, Moss, etc. to make up for Singletary, Epenesa, it means we don’t take a player for another position group that needs help. The Bills are tight against the cap with 20+ players with contracts coming up and real issues at OL, an expiring Morse contract, starting RB, WR depth, Safety, and LB depth going forward. They’ve pushed all their chips in this year, but for all the talk of “being sustainable” going forward, I’m a bit cautious when I break it down by position group.

I don’t think the Bills have a choice. He’s proven too valuable at this point. Especially with us not knowing how Hyde will return from neck injury. I would also like to not grab more defensive players in the top of the draft. We have a lot of holes on the OL.

I’ve been critical of Stef on how he handles some things. I was relatively impressed with this one. So…that’s been my chief complaint of Allen the last few weeks. He’s forcing a lot to Diggs. Like last week Diggs had 12 targets in the second half alone. It’s too much. The entire offense, hell the entire game just sort of felt awkward. But Allen wasn’t sharp. I certainly yelled at my TV about some pretty bad throws.

Benford is “fine”. If he’s starting with Tre, Poyer, and Hyde. I don’t think Benford or Elam are ready to carry the load they’re carrying in this defense. I think Jackson is having a great year despite today. Most teams would be happy to have him start on the outside with the over all year he’s having.

What a weird take-ish. Dane Jackson has been lights out for 10 weeks. He’s a legit starter. He’s allowed 1 TD YTD, 50% completion, and a 53 QB passer rating. I wouldn’t lump him in “worst DB’s in the league” I haven’t liked our back up safety play. Although Hamlin is a lot better than Johnson. But Hamlin is a good back up. Taron Johnson has struggled more than usual. Benford nor Elam are ready yet. At least not ready to start on the outside without a lot of veteran help from CB1, and two starting safeties. Just too many back ups and death by 1000 paper cuts.

I think our backup secondary is excellent compared to other backup secondary’s. I think they’re “meh” as a starting unit. Jackson has had a tough two weeks. Unfortunate, I’m high on him. I am a bit disappointed in DL. We paid Von, and spent a million top 100 picks on those guys, I expect a ton of production against the run and pass even when injured.

Super common for coaches to sleep in their office mid season. Given the weather this is likely

Over under on 3 passes in front of the line of scrimmage to our million active RB’s. Or maybe, who catches more forward passes? Our FB (Gilliam) or our 5 RBs?

Oh Jesus. I’m an idiot. I agree with Brady here. I originally read this as pooping on the AP (Associated Press) for releasing private text messages, and that AP was further discrediting their name as a news source. Wow. AB makes way more sense. Haha.

Ummm, OK.... That is an opinion I guess....

I would love to be a fly on the wall and be able to see the play call vs. the play ran. The running game is going. Like 7 different players catch the ball in the first half. The suddenly…constant shots at the end zone. Target Diggs like 12 times alone in the second half. Nobody else for 3 targets. Then only run the ball like 4 times. I just need to know who is doing the cocaine at half time? Allen or Dorsey?

I also thought Diggs should have turned around sooner. It’s 2nd and 10. The play call feels like a kill shot, but the WR are committed to it too on this one. Which is weird because coverage is pretty good and passing lanes are covered. Feels like the right defense for the right play.

I think the “If Cam didn’t exist” take is wild. Justin Jefferson is hands down the best WR in the league. Part of what makes that a wild catch is good coverage. JJ high points a one handed ball by himself 9 times out of 10.

Be less Billsy

5 times we rolled 30 seconds off the clock. Also, if your QB refuses to throw high percentage passes, you gotta keep the clock running.

Based on how much Josh is forcing throws and not going through his progressions, I honestly think either option is possible. Is Dorsey trying to ice the game? Maybe Dorsey is trying to get Josh in rhythm and settled? Or is Josh checking into a pass? If he’s not looking anybody off, and forcing throws, I’m tempted to think he’s misreading the defense pre snap and that’s where this all goes wonky?

Poyer, Hyde, Tre, Von. All those guys work hard, play hard, and joke around a ton. (Albeit different levels) Von post game of week one after Cooks fumble says “Cook is going to be a player. You can see it in practice. Plenty of guys botch their first carry” Stef “I guess 47 did alright. I don’t call rookies by their names”. I don’t know. That is such a silly example. I love everything about Von. There is something about the way VM carries himself that makes Diggs seem like such a wiener by contrast.

He’s also not going through progressions the last 3 weeks. On the all-22 he’s decided where the ball is going pre-snap. He looks past open guys to go for the home run. It’s weird. I don’t get it. It also, he’s been this guy before so I don’t know. I think we have to accept as a fan base this is sorta who he is. Favre had a HOF career doing the same thing. Josh will do the same. I think Daboll protected us from this a little bit more. He’d call the same play over and over again. Roll Josh right, run 3 crossers at 3 levels across the field with somebody on a curl in front as well. Dorsey has to get call the plays that hide this part of Josh. But also, it’s year 5, the league will figure it out.

A++ post. When I heard about offensive players getting after defensive players, I knew it was Diggs. I get flamed for this, but I don’t like the way he jaws. I like jawing and guys with a chip, but I think Diggs always toes the line of destructive/distracting too often. To your point above, I didn’t really notice I didn’t like it until this season and after seeing Miller. They are polar opposites.

Our RB’s are getting that much better YPC in the 4th at 3.4? I never would have guessed. (I know it’s only .3, but Allen has half the attempts which is also a little surprising)

He has Davis and McKenzie. He is staring right at them and still didn't throw the ball. I went and renewed my All 22 after the Jets game. It has been a lot of this. I honestly don't know WTF is going on with him, but our offensive execution just seems to be this play over and over and over again. I am frustrated upset. But also so confused. How can a player so good go back to such an early version of himself. There is something going on. Maybe he is all rattled from the GB hit? Maybe he is pressing too much with the pressure to be great? I have one itch that keeps bringing me back to the fact that he said he didn't do anything this offseason. Josh is a guy who made so many improvements so quick, there is a scenario where those corrections are not yet permanent and without constant reinforcement there is risk of taking steps backwards.

I am actually tempted to blame the sequence of events on the 3rd down and failed 4th down conversion for the game unraveling. It was the turning point. I disliked the throw on 4th, was against the call/wanted points, but absolutely hated the fact that we didn't run the ball on 3rd down if we were going to go for it on 4th. Not a single receiver on that 3rd down played the sticks. It was all out TD. I have been critical of Allen for having guys open and choosing to take a shot at a homerun. This was not one of those times. Unsure if this one was on Dorsey or McKenzie. It looks like McKenzie could have (should have?) run his route shallow. There was nobody there, but McK cut it up field to the end zone instead of across. he basically made his cut right in front of the defender. Had he gone shallow it was a clear first down. Allen went to McKenzie who was in a decent position but not ideal, so I am tempted to say play design was good, execution was bad. On 4th it looks like Gabe runs 3 yards and curls back to Allen and waits for a split second. A quick ball and it is a first. No YAC but a first for sure. After he curls, he cuts across the face of the LB towards Diggs to his right who is doing the same, but instead of curling Diggs just cuts across the face of the LB. Both LB's pass of their WR in zone. Allen hesitates again with the throw to Diggs and misses the opportunity. I have to assume that with both Diggs and Davis being covered by LB's and running routes a yard past the sticks, this is the play design. Allen had a narrow window, but I think it was within the initial design of the play. It doesn't get any better than both WR1 and 2 having a chance to make a play in front of the sticks. We've seen this offense execute these type of plays before. Worth noting a quick dump off to Duke is also likely a first. Duke is outside or at the numbers on the 10, turned up field and looking back at Josh while the nearest defender is at the 2. Allen never looks his way. Duke is at the LOS and Josh never looked to his left once. The DB didn't move from the 2 yard line.We didn't need a TD. We needed to get to the 5. A throw there and all Duke needs to do is get 6 feet. That throw to the endzone never had a chance. It was never going to work.