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He hasn’t lost any meaningful snaps in the slot. He’s also on pace to have his second best year of his career. Maybe he’s having a down year? But it’s not because he isn’t running routes at any lower rate. It’s likely a combination of Knox injury, family, and Josh. Not to mention Daboll nor Dorsey runs a TE centric offense. It’s also worth noting that I don’t think Knox has ever been the TE that fans have been yearning for in Buffalo. He’s certainly physically gifted thought As the season has gone on Allen seems to have a bit more tunnel vision and spreads the ball out less. Not to mention the last two weeks have been really bad QB play. I am willing to bet it’s the QB right now.

Keep reading through the thread. This is actually a data point and there is no significant difference in his route running or percentage of snaps lined up in the slot.

https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/dawson-knox/#

Anybody notice that DB’s seemed to almost never turn around anymore?

Davis has drawn the CB1 the last two weeks in a row. I don’t know if it means anything. I am certainly no film savant. But I do think it is a point worth noting since we’ve struggled in both.

I don’t know if Willis has any staying power in the league but I like watching him play.

Maybe we should give out Game Testicles instead of Game Balls after weeks like this?

Same sort of thing as you. But thanks to BK’s snarky response I looked it up. When I asked earlier in the thread I actually didn’t think that info was available. Luckily fantasy football has exploded and that’s something those guys track. Who knew?

Knox lines up in the slot 18% of the time, compared to 21% last year.

Im not trying to run the guy out of town. It is a tough year to judge any guy by their performance at work. I also don’t think you can judge the OC for a physically and emotionally bruised TE that has never actually been the guy fans are expecting him to be.

He is on pace to have the second best year of his career. As Knox starts to get his feet back under him he’ll likely firmly cement himself as his second best year and push for his best year ever. The issue is his contract. His historical production didn’t warrant the value. We’ve never run an offense that relied on TE.

Not to over correct. But he’s running routes at about the same rate as last season. 2021: 75.4% of snaps he runs routes. 2022: 69.8% of snaps he runs routes. But 70.7% the last 3 weeks.

Thanks for adding so much to the conversation and being a reasonable human to a reasonable question. But sure, here you go. Knox is running routes on 5.6% less plays than he did in 2021. In the last 3 weeks his decline is less than 5% decrease in routes run. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/dawson-knox/#bio https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/snap-count-analysis/?team=BUF&snaps=10 Go find a more accurate hill to die on and stop being such a curmudgeon. Maybe you should have tried looking it up… He isn’t running less routes though. Everybody keeps parroting that it’s because he’s blocking so much more….but he’s not. He’s just being targeted less.

Is this even true? People keep saying this but I would actually love some data around routes run vs. snap count. Trying not to be hard on Knox because his life is hard. But I don’t even know if this is true.

We ran 3 LB sets last year with Klein at one point after a similar skid. But then ultimately went back to their base and we all started whining again. Everything is built for the teams to play catch up against us. Which means we have to score wart and often. 2 bad days from Josh means two bad days from the defense.

He didn’t make any change. if there’s a change, it’s likely regression due to lack of muscle memory and range of motion. Josh said that for the first time he didn’t do anything but rest and recover. Ian Eagle joked today that when asked Josh said “Golf”. It’s come up in every single prime time game. So when we have threads that go “Josh looks like 2020 Josh for multiple games” the simplest answer is usually the right one.

I keep coming back to the fact that Allen said he didn’t do anything but rest and recover this offseason. With the benefit of hindsight, Allen hasn’t just had two bad games. He’s certainly looked bad. The guy recently reinvented and retooled his natural throwing motion. Not hugely surprising the whole system looks wonky midway through the season. I know in my sport it would take years to make the smallest adjustments permanent and applicable under both physical and mental pressure. I couldn’t imagine not doing anything to reinforce that between world championship seasons.

This actually feels like an early criticism of Allen. It is almost deja vu. We’ve had this conversation before. As much as the Bills say they want a receiving back, they don’t actually want one. We spent two years benching Yeldon, to draft Cook, to then trade for Hines.

I think we’re missing something as fans. Two weeks in a row the offense struggles and two weeks in a row Davis draws CB1 coverage all game. I will have to go back and watch, but I’d like to get a count of routes run by Knox. It seems lazy to say “well he is primarily blocking”. Right now just feels like the Allen is force feeding Diggs. To your point, we need to commit to the run a bit more. I thought trading Moss would help that since it would give Singletary more touches to get into a rhythm. Fast forward…it didn’t.

I thought it was likely an interception. Some people I was with thought it was unfathomable McD didn’t throw the flag. I don’t know. Play was ruled jump ball and favor of the offense. The Jets got a play off in what seemed like 3 or 4 seconds from ruling to snap. CBS didn’t even show the third down play. Heads up play from the Jets on that one. Not a ton McD could have done there.

Are we sure these are mental yips? Didn't Josh say that for the first time he didn’t do anything this offseason other than let his body rest? If that’s the case, should we be shocked at consistency if at the mid-way point? Especially for a QB that has had to work so hard to change mechanics in the relatively recent past?

The Bills just weren’t good enough for me to care about a holding call. Allen sucked. The run D sucked. Fix those and none of the calls matter.

Unsure if it’s a real concern or reflex after 6 terrible quarters but Josh did say that this is the first time he didn’t do anything in this offseason and just let his body rest.

I think our OL sucks. It’s not terrible but it’s a little better than “meh”. I think Dawkins is good but not great. Both guards are up and down. And we still have needs at RT but we’re “serviceable” Morse is our best OL and there is a good chance he won’t be here next year. I’d be OK with moving Dawkins inside if they find an OT they really like in the draft. I think Buffalo goes OL early and often in 23.

Consistency. I like that in my QB.