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I agree. I think Basham, AJE, Rousseau, then paying Von. You could probably lump in our giant DL rotation into this. Plus a bunch of 2nds and 3rds on RB’s hurt us in a handful of places. There’s certainly some benefit. But some pain points as well.

This is a good discussion point. Since Beane was brought in he has only extended 2 of his own top 100 picks. Josh and Knox from his top 100. Cody Ford, Harrison Philips Moss aren’t on the roster. Given the cap space I don’t think we extend Singletary, and AJE is JAG. It feels like a weird spot to talk about not having the money to extend a first round pick, while only extending one of your first round picks. (2 if you count Tre who is pre-Beane)

One thing I don’t get is that he was so good last year down the stretch. And until a few weeks ago was a real live CB playing at starting CB1 level. Then along with what seems like a ton of other guys at other positions, went on a weird skid. Elam has certainly gotten better, but I don’t get the local hype. I’m not hugely shocked he didn’t dress. He is allowing 28/40, 300 yards, 2 TD’s, and a 88.4 passer rating when targeted. Dane is 33/59, 364, 77 passer rating and 3TDs. Until 3 weeks ago it was 50% completion and 50 passer rating. The last few weeks have been a head scratcher.

Rhodes got smoked on that long TD catch. Dude looked like he had cement boots on. Poor old man. I think Dane will still be a quality zone corner in this league. Hoping this is just a blip the last few weeks that drives his value down for us to re-sign.

I really like Oliver and would like to keep him. Especially since he’s another top 100 pick and we are likely to move away from a bunch at some point soon and they’ll need replacing too. I think Edmunds is a lock. Oliver is a likely. It will come down to OBJ or Poyer. We’ve seen this defense without him and his playing at an all pro level. His value to this team is immeasurable. Fair take. OBJ has age and injury history issues too. We currently don’t have any fall off from Poyer yet. I agree. We are tight on the cap. I’m of the philosophy of sign your own, and upgrade/replace/develop the draft. If we want to upgrade the OL the onus on draft day in April. Re sign your own and stop drafting the same positions over and over again.

I was just making a joke. But also what you’re saying is different. That’s just two companies with two sauces. Labatt didn’t move on. They were (are?) totally inept.

Honestly, they didn’t get anybody. It was just a total cluster fudge. Not part of any plan.

The whole thing gets tough because almost nobody else would play him often enough that that would correlate to anything super meaningful. Nobody in the division would be good to even think about doing it. What I would be interested in is "how often has BB lost to the same coach twice in a season". So there is a world where he plays Dungy, Shanahan, etc. twice in a season?

Tre is one of the handful of guys on the defense he lets play 100% of snaps as long as he is healthy. There is no "Tre will play as normal and make his normal substitution's but won't have any restrictions or pitch count" He will play 100% (or very very close to it) or he the staff will manage him.

WR is such a log jam. There area a million of them in the HoF with a bunch more playing. Diggs is talented enough to get in some day if he remains healthy and consistent with his current play. But he hasn't come close to doing enough yet. He will have to string together 5 more years and a Super Bowl appearance or two to even begin to enter the conversation.

There isn't a better rental in the league than the Bills and Chiefs. Honorable mention to the Eagles. I think the city itself is important to OBJ, and Buffalo is only on the table because of Von. He wants to be a in a major city. Long term/short term competitiveness weighed, Dallas is probably the best fit for him and the most willing to give him a multi-year decent value deal.

Fun fact. Josh Allen is no longer repping Labatt because they didn't show up to a scheduled meeting to renew for this year. They didn't call to apologize, never tried to reschedule. Nothing. He didn't sign with Corona out of spite for the meeting, more money, or any bad feelings. Labatt just totally dropped the ball. If that doesn't make you want to drink Molson....

One thing that really impressed me about Cook last night was his ability to make such powerful cuts. There were some players where he put one foot in the ground and a single cut that were so powerful and quick I had to pick my jaw up. He was a decisive runner for the most part. But I agree there were times I would have liked him to just cut up field and take the yardage. He is young and hasn't had a ton of opportunities. I would imagine he is trying to break every play loose to earn more reps. He will be fine. McKenzie and Diggs both have a tendency to dance around and even lose yardage trying to avoid contact rather than taking the 3-5 yards in front of them. Drives me bonkers sometimes.

I would rather give a multi year OBJ valued contract to Poyer. We know his value to this roster. We don’t know what OBJ will bring.

I would dislike. The Bills have 20+ FA with important pieces to replace/re-sign like Edmunds, Poyer, and Morse. We lose 3 of our starting OL and a good portion of our DL depth. Not to mention we have zero space next year. Signing Beckham to a multi year deal at a starting WR price feels irresponsible. TL;DR If we grab Beckham on a multi year deal and draft a new starting MLB and/or S in the first only to ignore other position groups, I will be pissed.

This was my thought. Also it looks like his knee is down before his elbow hits or ball moves. So by rule, at that point the play is over. I posted earlier, that I think part of the reason the league makes you "survive the ground" is because if that happens in bounds there are only a few options. Catch, fumble, incompletion. 2/3 are bad. So the league gives no credit one way or the other since the play cannot finish OOB.

A ball can move when caught in bounds though, that isn't problem. I "think" the issue is that when the ball moves in bounds there are three possible outcomes if the ball moves, catch, incomplete, fumble. I am guess that the league thought is that because 2 of the 3 possible outcomes are "not a catch/possession", that when it happens OOB they air on the side 2/3 rather than 1/3?

Poyer has proved his weight in gold and the current backups have already shown they aren't capable of keeping the defense running. Poyer is a must have next season, especially with 20+ FA on the roster. Edmunds has come into his own this year and is an integral piece. Would really like to keep him around with Milano. A big part of the reason we need to keep these guys is holes elsewhere. We have ripped through too many top 100 picks we haven't kept and/or needed to replace/upgrade. I don't think we keep Singletary, Moss is gone, redraft of Cook, AJE, Basham, then Groot, only to give huge money to Von and eat up both cap and draft picks. We can't keep going back to the well for the same position groups. We need to spend our top picks to fix new issues like everybody on OL with Morse being a FA and WR. I really don't want to use high picks on S or MLB right now.

He ran a decent amount of routes tonight. He was open a few times underneath and Josh didn’t look his way. I don’t think Knox is a bad player. I don’t know his value as an individual. I think the lack of involvement is a combination of the QB not feeding him and the OC not having enough plays with him as the primary.

We are paying the piper a bit at the moment. We have a good roster so let me start there. But we are also paying for Singletary, Moss, Cook, Hines where we devoted 2x3rds, 1x2nd, and a 6th. At the end of the season we may (likely?) only have one of them on the roster and that is Cook. Hines has an out for $0 dead cap. Otherwise he is $4.7M and we are tight on cap so I don't think he is kept. That means we likely draft ANOTHER RB. You can rinse and repeat for DE/DL. AJE, Basham, Rousseau, then paying Von means we don't draft, extend, or sign multiple other players at other position groups. This group goes on much further than that when you factor in that we have had one of the highest paid DL in the league for 4-5 years with minimal return. 2 position groups alone are 3-5 top 100 picks and a big time pass rusher contract that could (should?) have been spent elsewhere if it weren't for striking out and redrafting.

Brady had a better OL a lot of the time and is a better pure passer than Josh. Agreed though, he is the goat. That said, I think that once a QB signs the dotted line on a mega-deal the expectation is that they elevate average receivers and average OL on a regular basis. I include guys like Rodgers when I say that. There is clearly some nuance with FO's and coaching, but there has to be some understanding that taking a significant portion of the cap comes with consequences. EDIT: This is where the FO trading Teller, or drafting a million RB's in the top 100, or pass rushers over and over again bites us. You lose an opportunity to upgrade another position when you start doubling up to make up for unmet expectations.

I thought Dane outplayed Wallace last season and the first part of this year. A few weeks ago he was allowing something like 49% completion and no touchdowns. Unsure what is going on. It seems as though with all the backups playing we are relying on more man (according to cover 1). Curious if Jackson is just struggling in man. I don't know how the Bills get by without Poyer next year. I think they have to find the money. He is worth his weight in gold at this point.

I think he’s absolutely toast. He was picked up by TB when they were a little banged up. He caught 4 balls for 17 yards.

I’ve been pounding the table to get guys back in the building earlier. I understand that this game is tough and removing padded/contact practices makes sense. It I don’t get why these guys can’t be in the building full time May 1 running routes in shorts, hitting the sleds, and watching film. If I am the owners I’ll gladly tear out every field in the league and halve the contact/padded practices but require work in the facility.

Russ is the issue there right now. Hackett certainly needs to go. But that Russell Wilson trade and extension has ruined the franchise for years to come.