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To be fair there are a lot of stories, and he would be easier to forgive if there wasn't also violence towards women involved. And it wasn't a "prime years issue" it was basically until he got jaw cancer issue. I was hearing stories and first hand accounts from my south town friends well past the y2k scare. Listen, I didn't come here to poop on Kelly or his family. Good vibes to his grandkids. But it's also so incredibly gross to put Kelly on a pedestal. People ignored what a POS Kelly was for nearly his entire life because he could throw a football. And suddenly it feels like those same people who ignored what a trash person he was because of the 90's want to use him as a shinning star because he's done the bare minimum to not be a garbage human. Again good vibes to his family, but Jimbo deserves little to no praise for anything other than being a tough SOB and being good at throwing a football. Frankly I don't know how anybody can feel any other way about a guy who beat up women.

You can't have this conversation without normalizing the QB position.

Somebody mentioned on SS a moment I totally forgot. Pegula called for more positive media around the Sabres super early in his tenure with the NHL. Citing that if the reporters propped the team up they would play better, support the team like he supports his daughter. It's hard to separate the "Beane is the most sensitive GM in the NFL" thread from an owner who is firing producers because of "nEgAtIvE" coverage in the worst drought in NHL history. It's historical. I think one hand washes the other on this issue.

I still watch the Sabres, and honestly Sabres Live and the game production is about as positive as it can be without Duffer, Marty, and Razor throwing up in their own mouths. Awesome 7 days or so for Pegula where both orgs have reports of being so sensitive they are beyond reproach.

The Buffalo News just reported that the Sabres fired their TV Producer of 37 years because the program becomes "too critical". I am not sure this is a Beane specific issue and more an organizational issue. There's some coddling by design and I think he may have just become a bit more thin skinned as time has gone on. But PFF also mentioned an issue going back to CAR so who knows...

I'd add the Comedy Cellar for sure. It's iconic. And the atmosphere is unmatched. Probably too early to get a ticket now. I think they book a month or so out. I can't recommend this enough. Cover is like $14 plus 2 drink minimum. Go a little early and grab a seat at the Olive Tree right above it. That's where alot of the comics hang out before hand. You can catch comedians like Burr, Normand, Jenson just shooting the shirt before they go on. Also not sure where you're from, but do some digging on food. Sports bars are 'fine' but I'd certainly use it as an excuse to go chase awesome versions of your favorites or explore stuff you normally can't get at home. Don't rely on little Italy if youre looking for Italian. Forewarning, the food in mid town blows. It's meh. Liberty Bagel on 35th is my favorite bagel in NYC though, so it's one of the very few exceptions. But there are better places for smoked fish. Los Tacos No 1 are popping up everywhere. They look like a chain, maybe they are now, but they started as a food cart/truck. They're legit. Speaking of Tacos, there's Taqueria St Marks. It's not fancy but good vibes and good tacos. Feels like a cross between Essex St Pub and The Pink. Kame Ramen on 8th is one of my favorite Ramens. It is in mid town and it's one of the few exceptions for things that don't suck around there. I'd put it up there with others in the East Village. Saigon Bahn Mi in China Town is my favorite Bahn Mi anywhere and that sandwich is my favorite of sandwich of them all. It's like $10. Get it (#1) spicy and with pate. Katz isn't just a tourist trap. It's legit and worth it. I've done Penn 6 a couple of times for Bills events. It's been good. I'm in and out of the city a bit for work and my doctors.

They've been friends and business partners since at least the 90's. They have been worth loads for decades. They have/had a yacht with a full time staff on it. And no that's not the Pegulas.

But yes, I am familiar with Terry, his relationship with the Fortons, and Fortons in laws that are Terry's business partners. Terry is a geologist by trade.

To the bolded. LOL. No they don't. There is no legal requirement to name a President nor a secretary. Not in NYS, not in FL, and not by the NFL. You are just throwing short at the wall and hoping something sticks. In my time working for and with multi-billion dollar brands there are a lot less brands that take a (relegated to) marketing executive and have them not only sit in meetings for hirings well outside of their field of expertise or department, but give their voice significant weight. But sure, maybe the bazillion start ups that try and stupidly emulate google far outweigh that. We have not yet seen Pegula organize people in a way that breeds success. We have seen McBeane do it, and that includes also controlling Pegula. But when given (taking?) full control Ter-Bear has yet to show the ability to do that at scale. Even if your point were true (which again, it is not. It is blatantly false), there is zero reason why a figure head President relgated to marketing should be present in the hiring of football ops unless 1. they aren't just a figure head and/or 2. their opinion carried significant weight however unqualified/undeserving to give it.

He said that to Terry, about Rex. That's been quoted a billion times

Terry Pegula famously runs a flat management style where anybody can bring him anything and he becomes the arbiter. Fairburn just wrote a whole article about how Adams got to speak out of pocket to Pegula since day one. And you think when Brandon says "Terry don't let him leave without a contract" Terry is turning around and saying "STFU Russ, not your job, you've been relegated to marketing" Lolz. If it weren't for Brandon's missteps the Bills would be trending like th Sabres. Russ Brandon is basically Kevyn Adams 1.0.

Imagine describing somebody as being "relagated to the marketing side" when he's literally the President of two pro sports franchises owned by a guy who proudly wears "flat management structure" on his sleeve.

I think the O/U is probably at about 8.5. My big question is are we talking IR'd Josh or do we get to spend his cap number to help the team? If I get to spend the money I'll take the over. If I don't, I am not sure.

You think 20k people didn't see Pegula in his box watching? That's what we're leaning on? Hopefully one day we can be unsure if Terry is in attendance for a Stanley Cup (LoL) or Super Bowl. Because the leagues and leadership between the three leagues are so similar, lolz.

I think Baker is a top 10 QB. The problem here might be who we are considering franchise QB's. For me it is any QB that a franchise has or will hitch their wagons to with a fresh contract. So I don't have Caleb Williams but I do have Jayden Daniels. It doesn't mean Caleb won't be one. But he isn't right now. If you think there are only 10 franchise QB's, then sure, maybe. But if you think there are 15 or so it isn't really close. Absolutely not. Rough order for me Allen Mahomes Lamar Burrow Hurts Stafford Daniels Baker Stroud Purdy Love Lawrence Dak Tua Murray