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In fairness Shaduer said "we" over and over again when asked about turning an NFL team around. I agree with whoever else posted that it would have served Shaduer well to have a different coach than pops at some point. And for the record. I find Deion entertaining. He's without hyperbole one of the greatest all around athletes to ever walk the earth. I like him in college football (although disappointed he gave up on the whole HBCU thing) and I'd like him as an NFL coach. He's must watch TV. There's a lot more insufferable people in the NCAA and NFL. But that's not the kind of dude I would want as a helicopter parent around my org who has access to the national media and a microphone 2-3 days per week. Retiring his number reinforces this argument as well. Oddly enough Shilo seems to be the most grounded Sanders by far which makes him an interesting prospect to me.

At this point the best thing for Shaduer is to go very late round as a flyer to a team with a strong org, HC, and well entrenched starter hoping to flip him down the road for a higher pick. KC would be a good fit and they can absorb Deion antics. So would Buffalo but I don't want to deal with Deion and his QB son. I will say Shilo seems like the exact opposite. Much more humble and work horse. Hes been nothing but projected as low draft pick/UDFA safety and Prime hasn't propped him up as more than that. I'd wouldn't be mad at taking a flyer on the kid and maybe putting him on the PS.

In regards to McKelvin I was more talking about him as an elite physical prospect vs a finished player in the NFL. I won't hijack the thread too much to defend McKelvin and I also think Hairston should be better. But... I always thought more teams than not had worse CB2's than McKelvin during that time. In his 8 years with th Bills he was named to the NFL's all rookie team, was top 10 in pass break ups and pick 6's twice, and fumble recoveries and interceptions once. All in different years. Add on his elite skill as a returner and it is a decent NFL career. He just wasn't the guy we hoped. But to bring it back around without derailing. They seem to have elite physiological measuarables, similar size, and similar criticisms/areas in need for improvement.

I'm not the draft guru that others are on this board. But going through YouTube, these comments, and a bunch of prospect profiles and I the only one who thinks he reminds me of.... Leodis McKelvin Tremendous athleticism. Can run with anybody and everybody. On the small-ish side. Needs to get stronger. Sometimes trouble tracking the ball. I was a McKelvin fan btw. He played 9 years. Good cover corner who struggled to track the ball at times but almost never got beat. Not a world beater but a decent starter in the NFL. With the 11th pick everybody wanted a Nate Clements replacement. We got a solid starting outside corner. If McKelvin were picked 30th people would have viewed him differently. (Aside from that kickoff he fumbled)

If the Bills think that the situation is really unsolvable with Cook I MIGHT consider Cook in exchange Pickens and a their 2026 3rd. I think the dude is a headache and I am inclined to say no.

I've heard that rumor, but I think it might have been on his extension. My barely educated two cents is that both franchises are managed identically. Terry is very open about allowing anybody and everybody to come directly to him with ideas. Which is awesome in some ways but without structure makes definite roles and taking inventory for improvement nearly impossible. We see it with the Sabres a ton. And we saw it early with Rex and Whaley and Brandon. The advantage McBeane have is a past prior working relationship and being hired more or less as a package. So Beane is never going to Terry without McD nor McD to Terry without Beane. The Sabres have been a hire this position, then that position, and then this other position, and they all independently push for their own image of the organization to Terry and Terry piece meals it all together. I think it's less meddling and more lack of leadership and structure from the ownership. Without some definition and ultimate responsibility in the org it's nearly impossible to hold people responsible. Terry Pegula is why I have next to no interest in splitting up McBeane. In addition to both being above average at their individual craft they keep our owner in check, which is also a skill. Just a real life hypothetical on the Bills side. At least how I see the last 14 years of the Sabres: Let's just say we finally move on from McDermott and we even promote from within (and Beane does not have that line in his contract). Say Joe Brady takes over too keep congruency. We struggles a bit but Brady keeps clamoring to Pegula on the side that we need to start drafting x players instead of y players. Terry starts telling Beane to start prioritizing positoon x. The team gets worse. Everybody blames Beane, but Beane lost control lose 2-1 to Brady/Terry. Then we get a new GM and that GM is saddled with Brady and he tells Terry "Actually Joey B is an idiot." And Terry goes "yeah he's an idiot". So we start drafting a hodge podge of players that don't work with the current coach. Then we hire a new coach who goes to Terry to split the tie on what to do with the roster. And around and around we go for 14 years. Terry Pegula believes this is a feature not a bug.

To be specific I think we'd be loaded with young slot corners,a young back 7 that can't really cover anybody but they do have way more interceptions than our analytics would think they would. We'd also have tons of RB's with bad visions and no OL run behind. Our QB room would be like 6 different versions of Mike White or Gardner Minshew just waiting to blossom under the right leadership or whatever.

I'm a firm believer that Terry Pegula is fully capable of running the Buffalo Bills into the ground.

I like Shilo. He's the exact opposite of everything I see from Shedeur. I know it's a short clip, but man, just speaks volumes to their different characters. "You can't disrespect him, he the reason you got it like this. Everything we got is because of this man". There's another clip out there where he's giving Deion a hard time about his 4.2 40 not being on tape. It's all a joke that ends with him asking Prime "what do I have to do to run a 4.2?" https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19F3nvQB23/ I would steer clear of Shaduer (obviously we have Josh) but I'd consider taking a 6th/7th round flyer or UDFA on Shilo. It is crazy how different those two are.

I'm curious if they give Tre a shot at safety. But that's a topic for another thread.

It has nothing to do with them being happy for their kid. Their home comes across as pretentious and their kid looks like a Logan Paul doppelganger. It's the combination of the two things. Maybe they're all awesome. It's just an internet hot take with what seems like an eternity between picks.

His draft party looks like a home that's too fancy to be allowed to sit on the furniture. I know nothing about his family. I'm going off of a 30 second clip. But every single one of him and his family members seems very punchable.

You're a HC/GM of a QB needy team and Sanders doesn't play well and Prime is calling for your job on national media 3x per week. It's a tough spot.

I wonder if the elephant in the room is Deion. If you take Shaduer you have to deal with Deion chirping about your franchise every week. And not from home. From his weekly pressers and barstool contract. I'm not saying Sanders is an awesome prospect but I'm curious if more QB needy teams would be willing to take a flyer if not for dad having such a pulpit.

I agree. I think we're saying something similar. Either give up the 2025 picks or the 2026.