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Yup. If you're gonna play bend but don't break. and intentionally give up the run, then you better get points when you have the rock. I mean Mahomes is the best QB alive. If you give him opportunities, he'll kill you with the big play, so I don't neccesarily mind the game plan on D. It actually worked to a certain degree. Afterall the Bills were THIS close to having the ball, down 6, in Chiefs territtory, with just about 5 left.

Bills D played 6-7 in the Box. They wanted the Chiefs running, to avoid the big play. They hoped to get 3rd and long stops. The last part is where the D failed.

Bills only had the ball 4 times in the 2nd half. 1st ended with a Cole Beasley drop. 2nd ended with Moss getting stone walled on 3rd and 1, 3rd was the TD, 4th was the INT at the end of the game. That's really not on Allen. When they gave him the opportunity to sling it in the 2nd, he showed well.

Allen played well in that 2nd half, so I'll have that as my primary take away. 3rd down D was atrocious, but on Mahomes big 3rd and 12, there was a BLATANT OPI on Kelce, where he quite literally screened the defender off the WR, that got him open.

That was BLATANT EFFING PI on that 3rd and long. Edmunds was literally screened by Kelce 15 yards downfield to get that WR open

Pulling guards don't have DLineman assignments. Except maybe on screens? Pulling guards LEAD through the hole, not make the hole. He wanted to push Edmunds out or to the right of the hole, clearing a straight path for Henry. Instead Edmunds forces the play back towards traffic. Not sure what else you could have expected out of him. He's got 300 pounds of human being, flying at considerable speed and strength, that he HAS to take on. I mean his literal job is take that guard on, and stand him up in the hole.

My bad! Should have actually realized that based on earlier conversation

That I disagree with. I'm fairly happy with LB + DT play. Unhappy with DE play, REALLY unhappy with backup corner play (can't emphasize enough how much we need Tre and Levi back - at least they have the basic athletecism to hang with good NFL WRs. About all you can do with Normal right now is make him a boundary corner) By Edmunds? His only real job there is to fill the gap and force the RB away from it. That play was CLEARLY designed to go right of center, led by the pulling guard. Edmunds got there first, and basically broke that play up. That's a successful play by Tremaine. Klein overplayed.

right gap assignment, scrape backer. Thought even if Klein correctly scrapped, I have my doubts in his ability to stop someone like Henry for no gain. Sometimes you just gotta respect talent

That was the center who got to Edmunds in this play, and that's just something Edmunds has to win in this defense (I mean he's faster so that's a match up you like if you're McDermot/Frazier), but they're not going to be happy with Quenton Jefferson for the reason you point out. He took the path of least resistance, in such a manner that it gave him no shot at getting to the RB, but also easily freed up the RG to ALMOST reach Edmunds in the 2nd level as well. He needs to go under the guard, take the hit, rather then slide in behind, and basically out of the play.

Btw the 2nd play in that clip is a reflection of why play action is such a weapon. Edmunds didn't trust that was going to be a run until he saw the RB with the ball, rather he was probably thinking play action pass, and by then Lewan was already on him. And if Edmunds doesn't shed Lewan, that's probably a 10-15 yard run, even more if he makes Poyer miss

In that first play, you immediately see Poyer fly to spot, and Edmunds doesn't even take a scrape step, meaning he's not looking for the last defenders hip, as a target. So that's gap assignment for Edmunds, and contain responsibility for the safety. He deserves credit here for avoiding the block and making the play with force, but you give just as much credit to the scheme in this instance. It's why you play it. Edmunds isn't wasting time trying to figure out which gap to fill. Not a great way to describe a corner back

We seem to run a lot of gap assignment on defense. At least that's my thoughts when I'm watching the D. It's not a defense where backers are necessarily reading the olineman and RB. They diagnose run, they diagnose a side, and they fill a gap, trusting the DTs to fill gaps as well, and for the DEs and corners to contain. If you're watching Edmunds in the wrong gap, it might be that's actually an assignment thing. This actually might be in response to the Rams gashing the Bills D. The Rams I think use a lot of zone blocking scheme, and if you have linebackers, who read, react, fill - it's easy to open up cut backs in the middle for a RB to find. A way to counter that is with gap assignment football. The Raiders also use such a zone blocking system with Jacobs, who's a one cut and go player, and they held Jacobs to 3.2 YPC, on 48 yards. The Titans are also a heavy Zone blocking team, and again the Bills stifled the run. I don't have the film to breakdown, but my first guess is after the Rams game, the adjustment was to goto a intentional gap assignment defense - I mean I saw Tremaine a few times go straight into a gap on the snap, after seeing run.

I mean the Bills held Henry well in Check, and basically shut off the middle for running. Think that would have to do with Edmunds? I mean he's among the last of our problems He's not

in that 2nd half, Allen was chewing up the Titans zone, except on one particular play of course.

At this point, I'd just settle for DEs who can set an edge and know how to keep contain. Getting back Milano, Tre and Levi Wallace goes a long way in helping this defense get better on down and distance. Especially with the Chiefs. containment is going to important with a mobile QB and a dangerous RB who move really quickly to broken containment

He's a better version of Trent Dilfer. Which is to say he's excellent in what he does (play action football, accurate when clean, where he can show off a strong, accurate arm, plus athlete so a threat to run), and is now smart enough to know what situations to avoid. You wouldn't ask him to carry the offense like they did in Miami, but you give him a pretty good OLine and strong running game, he can get you a SB.

Clowney was basically himself - super quick off the line, probably won a few battles in that he pressured and bothered Allen. He got 2 batted balls, one on Allen, and another when #5 threw it right at him.

They are acting like the victims and it's super irritating. Very much reminding me of the Patriots acting like the victims after getting caught cheating

Fair

if there is a person to criticize here, it's Brandon Beane. The depth on D is clearly not good enough, and he needs to assess his DEs better. You can't wait until week 5 until you find out that you're DEs are done.

Yea I agree that the loss was inevitable when they gave up the TD. But really, I'm not too crticial of the coaches tonight. They just played the AFC runner ups without their top 2 corners, their best LB, and DEs who are clearly well past their ability to start. If you're Frazier or McDermott, you're basically hamstrung. You can crticize the decision to play man so much, but thats at least understandable when you consider you gotta stop Henry, and you need safeties to do that. Offensively, I'm not gonna criticize daboll when there were at least 5 drop (one of which resulted in a INT), Allen made what was one of the worst INTs of his career, and the offense didn't touch the ball between 10 minutes and the 2 minute warning.

At worst that's defensive holding. I question why we were playing man so much. I get they were bailing out on Henry, but putting those corners on an island against Brown is questionable at best,

If he hadn't thrown that INT, it would had been fine. Then it's 21 - 17 in the 3rd quarter, and the Bills have made it a game. Don't forget the Bills D actually responded with their best response of the night when the Titans got the INT - they actually held them to a fairly easy 3 and out, except the roughing call. That killed their will. Even down 28 - 10, it was a reasonable play, they had it down 12 with 10 left. That's a pretty reasonable position to be in.

Jefferson and Oliver (who quietly had a pretty good game) are doing that, but that's not as meaningful from the DT position, unless you're Aaron Donald, Jones or the dude from the Bengals whom I'm forgetting. You generally didn't see Tannehill just standing in the pocket. He plays off play action, but the pocket got nicely moved back.