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You can assume older players will get injured, but I think assuming someone like Von was gonna get a torn up knee that held him back 2 years is another thing. When he tore his ACL he was playing at an all-pro level, and he may very well have been the difference in that Chiefs game. I loved the signing when it happened, I thought it was well on its way to working out well for the Bills, and I think it's unfair to use the ACL tear to retcon that choice into a bad one
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Didn't he start the one week where Ras wasn't available? I think McDermott still likes him I don't think the Bills win without Cooper's big plays against the Chiefs. He's such an incredibly skilled WR, that it's going to be next to impossible to replace him without spending a lot of capital. Keon looks like a future star of the physical WR type, and I think Shakir has a long future ahead of him as a slot guy. But when you're thinking of the guy opposire Keon who's an elite route runner with high end body control and technique? I mean I think that's going to be really invaluable as Keon becomes more and more unguardable in 1 on 1 matchups. I get the philosophy of not giving big contracts to older players, but I think Von was worth it, and I think Cooper is as well. It's nice to have that as a general philosophy but there should be exceptions
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One thing that continues to intrigue me about the Josh Allen era Bills' roster is how few first round picks they play, yet they do have a lot of 2nd/3rd round guys QB - Josh Allen - 1st round RB - James Cook - 2nd round WR - Amari Cooper - 1st round (traded at age 30) WR - Shakir - 5th round WR - Keon Coleman - 2nd round TE - Dalton Kincaid - 1st round LT - Dion Dawkins - 2nd round LG - Davif Edwards - 5th round C - Connor McGovern - 3rd Round RG - Torrance - 2nd round RT - Brown - 3rd round DE - Rousseau - 1st round DE - AJE - 2nd round DT - Ed Oliver - 1st Round DT - DJ - 4th round LB - Bernard - 3rd round LB - Dorian Williams - 3rd Round CB - Benford - 6th round CB - Rasul Douglas - 3rd Round NCB - Johnson - 4th Round SAF - Damar Hamlin - 6th Round SAF - Rapp - 2nd Round Not saying it's good or bad or even normal/abnormal, but the among the starters there's 5 first round picks, one of them traded for at age 30. Also a ton of home grown talent
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What're we thinking on Douglas? Bills have plenty of cap space to get him if they want him
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updated! Sent a 3rd and 2026 7th and got back a 2025 6th
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They certainly could be saving their powder for 2026 which means they wouldn't have to do any restructures (which would be great). But mostly this excercise was about thinking through what the Bills CAN free up and what the roster looks like (it's going to look a lot like the won they have now). I'm not sure a zone heavy corner like Douglas is worth big money, and if it comes to it I think they trust Kair Elam enough to give him a shot as a starter (he'll be in his final year) and they can add depth behind him in a cheaper zone corner Probably my own wishful thinking of wanting a pair of higher end athletes back there (Bishop is border line blue-chip athlete)
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Bills Roster and Cap are in very good shape I think. They can use their draft capital to fill out depth on the back end of the roster, and use their day 1 & 2 picks to potentially upgrade at corner and safety and maybe offer Dorian Williams competition to be Matt Milano's succesor. Landing Amari Cooper (assuming they can retain him) was huge as it means the Bills won't need to use a premium pick on WR this offseason (and can do so in 2027). You can also argue that spending some cap space to upgrade AJE might be worth it
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To start, the Bills will carry just $5.4M in Dead cap ($68M this season) with 5 players with Tre White having 4.1M of that. Total Cap Liability - 266M Top 51 - 260M Total Projected Cap space - 8M Total Roster - 45 Probable Cuts Von Miller, 8.4M Net cap savings, 15.4M Dead cap Jalen Virgil - 1M Austin Johnson - 0 (Void year) After Cuts Top 51 - 250.5M Cap Space - 9.5M Roster Size - 43 To get to 54 - 11 Extension: Josh Allen - 8 year, 400M, 15M Signing Bonus (Drop his 2025 Base Salary to ~2M, ~ savings of 10M in 2025) Gregg Rousseau - 5 year 100M, 20M Signing Bonus (Drop his 2025 Base to ~ 3M, ~ savings of 7M in 2025) Rasul Douglas - 2+2 year 8M, 3M Signing Bonus (Drop his 2025 Base to ~1M ~ Savings of 2.5M in 2025) Amari Cooper - 4 year, 60M, 10M Bonus ~ 10M 2025 Cap Hit After Extensions: Top 51 - 240M Cap Space - 10M Roster Size - 43 Restructures Ed Oliver ~ 6.5M Savings Dawson Knox ~ $7M Savings After Restructures Top 51 - 225M Cap Space - 35M Roster Make up Starters Needed 0 Upgrades Desired (obviously up for discussion) 1 - Safety over either Rapp or Cole Bishop 1 - Corner over Rasul Douglas Depth Needed 1 RB 2 WR 1 TE 1 OT 1 DT 1 EDGE 1 Safety Draft Picks - 8 Total 1st Round Pick (Buffalo) 2nd Round Pick (Buffalo) 2nd Round Pick (Minnesota, via Houston) 4th Round Pick (Buffalo) 4th Round Pick (Chicago*) 6th Round Pick (Buffalo) 6th Round Pick (New York Giants) 6th Round Pick (Cleveland)
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Yea I agree. And to be clear I wasn't claiming anything bad. Chiefs won first down fairly consistently against the Bills O, and they did it more often against then Bills D. That's usually a recipe for losing. But the Chiefs have the best run D in the league for a reason, and I actually credit Brady for sticking with it, knowing it opens things up for Josh regardless. But Josh carried the offense on the money downs. He's why Brady can just pound for 1-2 yards on first down to keep KC honest
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The bills had like a 21% rushing success rate on first down. Say what you want about the coaching, but this was Josh Allen deciding he was gonna be scoring some points no matter what
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Mahomes is having his worse season as a pro that’s a joke
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I’ve got Allen, Jackson, Goff and Saquon in some kind of order
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I’m beginning to question my own ball knowledge. In my mind this is the worst roster since Josh made the leap in 2020. The defense has 2 borderline like bluechippers in Groot and Oliver. The offense has Josh Allen, a great slot in Shakir, and two really good tackles with some good backs…but this team doesn’t have a Stefon Diggs. It doesn’t have 3 stud DBs. It doesn’t have an elite athlete at middle backer. Heck it doesn’t have an established WR like Gabe Davis. It doesn’t have a single first rounder on the oline. But the offense has Josh Allen. Replace him with like Russ Wilson and this team is 5-4 or worse
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11/17/24 Game 11 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Chiefs post game Thread
appoo replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Morris wouldn’t have been wide open without Brady sticking with first down runs -
11/17/24 Game 11 GAMEDAY! Bills vs Chiefs post game Thread
appoo replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Josh ***** Allen. I mean Spags beat our offense today. He couldn’t beat Allen though