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Who is "nervous?" If EJ kills it on Saturday, I'm pumped that we have 3 QB's who have all had good plays and days.
Speak for yourself. There's plenty of fans, coaches, and media members that don't want EJ to do well tomorrow.
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No, a losing organization would stake its starting QB job on one preseason game and not an entire offseason of assessments.
Or 3 preseason games and a scrimmage. In other words, everything that truly matters in an offseason.
No, a losing organization would stake its starting QB job on one preseason game and not an entire offseason of assessments.
Just admit that everyone moved on from EJ until he started performing well. Now everybody is really nervous he's going to kill it on Saturday.
There's a lot of "reputations" on the line that need EJ to do poorly.
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Well I will stake my credibility to this: even if EJ looks unbelievable and the other two QB's play poorly on Saturday, EJ aint starting week 1.
Sounds like something a losing organization would do.
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Yup, the ONLY time advertisers will feel pressure to pull advertising is from backlash from either sexist, racist or homophobic remarks made by someone at a station.
"Popular" and "controversial" go hand and hand with ratings.
The "ONLY time". You seem pretty sure about that. I'd like to know how everybody seems to know that. Or is that just the only time you've heard about it publicly
Popular and controversial do tend to go together. However, not every company wants to be associated with controversial. That's where everybody in this thread misses the point. That's where the humor in the previous joke ends.
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This is probably true/ However, people who give EJ unlimited excuses need to do the same.
Yes, but one point of view is worse than the other. One side is fighting to give a guy a chance, and the other side is fighting to get rid of the guy.
One side is constructive, the other side is destructive. One side is supportive, the other side is hateful.
I'm not talking about most people somewhere in the left or right of center. I'm talking about the extreme ends.
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This logic has escaped the OP and the OC....
I explained my logic perfectly clear later on the 1st page. Everybody seems to be ignoring it.
The first time a company tells their WGR ad salesman that they are thinking about stopping their advertising because of complaints, any salesman worth his/her salt is going to tell the business owner/rep that the intention of the shows is to stir up controversy which gets people to tune in. It is the same reason that television news stations report the crap they report. Most of it is not really news and it certainly isn't useful. It is to elicit an emotional response in people which gets them addicted to the show.
But now we're putting pressure on the station. More pressure than anybody has managed to put on before. If that happened we would be getting somewhere.
I'm hearing a lot of dismissal and people laughing at me who have never tried doing anything like this. The main laughing point seems to be that the "joke is on me because advertisers will love the attention".
This may be funny in your head, but there are many advertisers who sponsor WGR because they are a popular sports radio show, not because they are controversial. Many would leave quick if they felt any negative effects at all. They are doing it for 100% positive reasons, not for negative attention. Not every small business owner is a Donald Trump type industrialist who just wants any publicity.
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I think it's pretty clear EJ has been improving and the coaches are rewarding him.
Maybe he wasn't that good the last two years and the beginning of camp. But now he seems to be getting better.
It's obvious to me that people made their decisions about him, emotionally invested themselves, and now are hoping he fails to prove a point. I think they need to look in the mirror and ask themselves what's more important.
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That's a great story. He clearly has a way of getting himself into bad situations. I know people like him. It's going to keep happening.
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EJ lost his receivers last year after nearly getting several of them killed. He waits until receivers are open before he makes the throw...he's not the answer.
Which everyone knows can NEVER be fixed or improved upon.
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I'm hearing a lot of "don't bother trying", instead of "I've tried that and it doesn't work".
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I'm hearing a lot of this:
"You're just letting them know you're listening so you'll just encourage them"
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"Just stop listening"
If anybody has complained to customer service and gone up the ladder to supervisors and managers, etc. you know that the higher up you go, the more you get what you want. You might think that advertisers will like that people complain about who they're supporting, but if people start judging the advertiser negatively for it, they will threaten to drop out. That's why so many advertisers dropped Tiger Woods for cheating or any other celebrity who said something politically incorrect.
You might think that this is the case:
Yeah, let the advertisers know you're listening. That'll force change.
But in reality, advertisers don't want anybody having a potentially negative opinion about them. Maybe some don't mind, like those that advertise on Howard Stern, but I assure you most of the advertisers above don't want to deal with people looking down on them for supporting WGR. They didn't sign up for it. That's my logic. So they may talk to WGR directly, or their ad broker, either way they're going to consider it when it comes time to renew. And that is the LAST thing WGR wants. We have more power over the monopoly than we think. If we demand higher quality, then they'll need to give it to us.
Second, yes, I personally can stop listening (which I have). BUT, that only makes change on a small scale. We would need people to stop listening on a large scale for any change to be made. Instead what I'm seeing is complaining on a mass scale, but no complaints sent to the people who matter.
If all the people in OC's thread would send an email to an advertiser, Schopp would be out the door before the day is out.
So forgive me for trying to do something about the sports radio monopoly in Buffalo that so many people have a problem with.
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Hit them where it hurts guys. And where they least expect it.
"The line of least expectation is the line of least resistance".
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Yeah, let the advertisers know you're listening. That'll force change.
You'll be surprised. One well-placed complaint can cause an avalanche.
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A poster in the other WGR thread mentioned that the best way to get your complains heard is to contact their advertisers, rather than WGR directly. Well I think that is a great idea!
Here are a couple of their smaller advertisers (the ones more likely to hear your complaints). Feel free to contact them and tell them how you really feel about WGR's coverage. Let them know that you prefer TBD for your Bills football and perhaps they should advertise here instead.
Original Pizza Logs
http://www.pizzalogs.com/contacts
https://twitter.com/OriginPizzaLogs
Outlet Liquors
http://www.whatsyouroutlet.com/contact.html
https://twitter.com/WNYOutletLiquor
Belknap Heating and Cooling
http://www.belknapheating.com/contact
Consumers Beverage
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Yeah, nothing works better than billionaires silencing the media.
Either they silence the media or they control the media. Pick your poison.
Like a previous poster said, everybody is wasting their time complaining to WGR. You need to send emails or better yet tweet and post on social media to the advertisers. Preferably the smaller ones like Original Pizza Logs, Outlet Liquor, Belknap Heating and Cooling, Consumers Liquors, and Kaz companies. Advertisers that are small enough to read their complaints.
If you make those advertisers nervous, you will make WGR very nervous. Nothing will get them to change their tune faster.
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Hell of a talent. I'd take that risk. Problem is we're loaded at that position.
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So does EJ gain in the Monday Whosdaq? Cassel was an awesome 2-6 for 27 yards
I think so. Everybody seems hesitant to admit it. Two good practices in a row and the best scrimmage performance.
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I have a feeling it's a money issue. Wanted too much like Simmons.
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Newsflash, fellow fellows. If you send several messages to a girl you don't know and she doesn't respond, she's just not that into you.
Not always. Most likely Duke is hitting up lots of girls at the same time and seeing who hits him back. You never know who responds.
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Yeah, that was weak on her part. Guy was just being a little persistent, something men have done since the beginning of time. He didn't deserve that.
And a famous trendy porn star playing the "I have a boyfriend" line like she's all respectful and monogamous. Get out of here.
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I think most of us saying be patient generally agree he probably did something dumb.... Just that he probably didn't go attack a group of teenagers randomly out of the blue and it's worth seeing where this story leads before calling for heads.
If your post genuinely describes what you took away from the conversation here, I'm not sure what to tell you
Everybody wants to be "patient" when it's one of their own, yet want them burnt at the stake when it's somebody else.
Hypocrisy everywhere in this thread, especially with all the schadenfreude at other teams and players throughout this forum.
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Antics?? How did I become the scapeGOAT of this mess?? Lol
Imo
They desperately want him to be innocent. The mob is going to take it out on whoever disagrees with them.
I get the same fallout anytime I try to defend someone, that everybody here has already decided is guilty. Don't let them get to you.
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Here's my take on the video:
The vibe at the bar was perfectly fine before they walked into the frame. Blonde girl is clearly tipsy, Johnson actually looks sober.
It's starting to get crowded and he's definitely pushing into her like she's not there. Having been in this situation many times before, I assure you that one thing I can't stand is when some a-hole behind you keeps pushing.
She turns around and says something sassy. He says something back but at this point is waiting for the other girl to walk past so he can get the spot at the bar next to her. It's tight and the other girl is struggling to get through. He keeps pushing and suddenly the blonde snaps and turns around aggressively with her fist cocked, lunging forward and ready to go. I would argue the pointed thumb is not her pointing at the bartender, but simply how girls hold their fists (perhaps as a bluff). THIS is the moment everything escalated. It went from half-hearted passive-aggressive yapping to threatening a fight.
His instinct is to grab her arm. I'd like to say I wouldn't have done that but watching the video from his perspective, her body language is very aggressive. I might have done the same. You can read her lips yelping out "HEYYYYY" in a drunk way as they struggle. She then kicks and gives a 50% effort punch. She's dragged him into a crappy situation.
This is where he screws up. He hits her with full force then leaves really fast. He can't do that and having seen many guys being in similar situations, a strong push and a walk away is in order. Yeah, people might take that the wrong way and kick you out, but at least you can blame it on her and say you didn't hit her.
So summary: She's drunk, he's probably not. He's being a bit of a d*ck pushing (but this is college, that's how it is sometimes). They yap pretty harmlessly. He keeps pushing while trying to squeeze in. She snaps and lunges forward aggressively with fist cocked. He grabs her hand. She kicks and punches. He nails her.
Honestly, to me, it seems like unfortunate circumstances right until the end. He should have just pushed her strongly and walked away. That might've got him in trouble, but it's better than what he did. Entitled drunk girls are a way of life. You need to be smarter.
I'd suspend him then give him another chance. You don't know where these kids come from and how they were raised. You're not recruiting them for academic reasons. I'd keep him on a tiny leash, but I'd give him another shot. But in 2015, race and gender PR is more important than doing the right thing.
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I know that its hard to remember the overall live action of things from year to year but.....
The 2013 bills defense was fun to watch because Pettine brought the farm......a LOT.......but it was done at the expense of big plays when the house didnt get there......and we CONSISTANTLY gave up crucial 1st downs on the ground because of the "get to the QB at all costs" Pettine defense
Rex Ryans defenses are not like that......they are consistantly ranked high against the run to go along with exotic pass rush schemes.
This does make a difference
Had last years team been effective AT ALL on offense we would have had a much better record then 9 and 7.....I truly believe that.
Be that as it may
The defense is the constant on our team....we KNOW they are gonna be good...with Rex Ryan's mind at the helm they might even be great....BUT this team will only go as far as its offense takes it PAST a 9 and 7 type record
We MUST convert 1st downs on the ground in this scheme
We MUST score touchdowns instead of field goals
We MUST score in the red zone....be it run or pass
Now.....the arrow is pointing up here regardless of QB
- Sammy Watkins....a GENERATIONAL talent.....the bill is paid on this receiver (meaning compensation) and he is now in his 2nd year.......I expect this guy go have a big year REGARDLESS of whether we are biult to run the ball.....he is simply too good.......AJ Green good
- The running back stable IS improved.....there is no other way around this.....when Fred Jackson has been relegated to a limited carry role because we have a running back that is so good he has been forced there....u KNOW that you have improved the positon
- We have not had a TE of Clay's quality for years and years
- Wood also should continue to improve....and is completely being looked over right now
- The interior of the OL has been upgraded
Now.....all they have to do is prove it on the field.....not an easy task.....but hey. We are bills fans......so we are used to wait and see.
They took a small step last year...I think they continue to do that.
Thank you. The difference between EJ and Orton last year was that Orton could consistently get us to the red zone. The problem was we rarely got touchdowns. Then we would lose games we should've won to the Dolphins, Raiders, Chiefs, and Broncos. We had 12-4/13-3 potential last year.
We consistently year in and year out have a terrible red zone percentage. The next two problems are third down offense and third down defense, especially in the 4th quarter. Those three things are the reason we haven't been to the playoffs in 15 years. Not just because of a QB.
What's interesting to me is that those three quality are all crunch-time/clutch qualities. In other words, mental. That's why people say we don't have any luck. That's why people get annoyed with the losing attitudes. It's like the team expects to lose and ends up losing. I believe that mental expectation of victory/will to win was the difference between 9-7 and 12-4 last year. That Tom Brady, I'm going to win no matter how bad I played the last 3 quarters mentality and nothing is going to stop me. We haven't had that in a long time.
EJ Will Start Pittsburgh Game
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LOL ok.