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11 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
What games?
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Notice it’s always the downer fans that tend to run to support opposing team QBs? Why is that? Maybe that’s the conversation we should be having.
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8 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:
The Bills can beat anybody, at any time, and also lose to anybody, at any time. I have never seen a team so consistently inconsistent, or who so frequently plays to the level of their opponents.
That said, I do think the Bills should beat Miami, they've been very successful against them with Allen historically and whalloped them earlier this year.
Any team can lose to any team any given week. But very few can beat any team any week.-
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Mahomes getting a taste of what Josh Allen dealt with most of his career.
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24 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:
Nope. Everywhere it was widely known that Hasek was all-time incredible. On an interesting, and related, note, he stayed at a hotel I worked in back in 2000. I had heard that he was prickly and difficult, but he was anything but. Truly gracious and had a lovely family.
Here’s the 1999 issue of THN where they rank Hasek #95. This would’ve been near the end of his Sabres career and his NHL peak. He won a cup with the Red Wings in 2002 on a stacked team.
https://thehockeynews.com/news/the-top-100-nhl-players-of-all-time-throwback-style
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19 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:
Nope. Everywhere it was widely known that Hasek was all-time incredible. On an interesting, and related, note, he stayed at a hotel I worked in back in 2000. I had heard that he was prickly and difficult, but he was anything but. Truly gracious and had a lovely family.
He was known as great, but not GOAT. At least outside of Buffalo, in hockey history circles.-
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17 minutes ago, Mango said:
Right?!?Hasek is at a Brady, Manning, Montana level of conversation.
Nobody thinks Hasek is an afterthought.
He is now. It was only after he retired did the hockey buffs really accept him as GOAT level.Just now, SMAKCruiser said:I must have a different memory than you but many thought Hasek was the GOAT while he played.
Maybe in Buffalo.
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18 minutes ago, Kaenon said:
Really?
Hasek won 6 Vezina trophys being voted as the leagues best goalie each time.
That's second only to Jacques Plante who has 7 and played in the 50s and 60s.
He won the Vezinas and Harts but he was not looked at in the same historical light as Roy or Plante or Sawchuk at the time.
Main reason was no cups. Second was being in small market Buffalo. And third was the European bias which was much stronger back then. Another reason is he came to the league when he was nearly 30 playing most of his early career in the Soviet controlled Czech Republic so his win totals weren’t high.
It was only after retirement did he start being seen as the #1 or #1A goalie of all time (next to Roy).
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17 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:
Not to derail the thread, but Luck is not a HOFer.
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1 minute ago, Billzgobowlin said:
I was actually looking for that but this one is from profootball reference and I don't see it. I'm guessing at least top 50
Appreciate you checking.
We’re starting to see that Allen is already at the Andrew Luck level, a guy people are already pushing for the HOF.
Allen keeps this up for 10 years and he will be remembered the way Hasek is in the NHL. Known as a great goalie during his time, but only appreciated as one of the GOATs after his career ended and people became gobsmacked after looking at his stats.
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Do we have the same list for total touchdowns?
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7 hours ago, Airseven said:
“Narratives”, “agendas”, “trolls”, “hate”, etc. are cudgels for weak-minded fans.
You’re a really obvious troll.
You should watch Einstein to see how to do it better. He at least pretends to be a positive fan sometimes. Mix it up a bit!
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BigDingus is a great username for the OP.
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1 minute ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:
"WHY CANT YOU BE AS UNHAPPY AS ME"
This isn’t a football thread, it’s a guy crying out for a therapy session.-
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54 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
This is a really weird narrative.
By your own standard you say 24/28 would be league average. Fine. Sounds about right. That's 85%.
Bass on the year is 22/27. That's 81%. Basically 2 kicks under par, so to speak. So 4% in your eyes takes you from "league average" to "truly bad"?
Now, I'll gladly admit Bass has had a down year for his normal standard. But the sudden talk this year of Bass being horrible are greatly over exaggerated.
On top of that he's 43/44 on extra points.
Nice rebuttal. I was thinking the same thing.
The logic he used to dismiss the OP he didn’t use to counter it. What he’s really saying is “negative situations are ALWAYS our fault. No excuses allowed under any conditions whatsoever.”
That’s what happens when people think with negative emotions instead of their brain or gut.
“No excuses” is an interesting argument. You notice it is a certain type of hard ass, not always bright type of fan that parrots this.
Basically there is truth to it. We all have independent agency to change our outcome in life. That sort of American pull yourself up by your bootstraps mentality. But it’s never black and white.
Even the greatest men and women who ever lived had ups and downs. Life moves in cycles. Sometimes the universe punches you in the mouth when you least expect it. The sign of a great person at that moment is showing resiliency and getting back up and punching back. For these fans, the fact you got knocked down already means you lost.
Basically these fans lack the wisdom of life, despite whatever age they are. They don’t understand cycles, resilience, and the way of the world. I’d argue they have little victory in their own lives to understand what it looks like to win at this type of level.
There is a time and place for “no excuses” and “no moral victories”. But there also is a place for them when you fight your hardest against the flow of the river and come up short. Josh Allen’s career has been the epitome of this. He literally pushes against the walls of the matrix and causes glitches which are then seen in the strange narratives around him.
These concepts are simply over the poster’s head. That is why he had a blind spot to his fallacy that you called out and an emotional bias towards the negative.
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10 hours ago, Special K said:
Dicker the Kicker is pretty impressive....you know if he got another chance there was no way he was going to miss it
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13 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said:
Miserable fans: Bills got lucky to win that close game!
Same miserable fans: The Bills can’t win close games!
You may note that many of these same fans complain after other blowout wins by criticizing timeout management or an Allen pick or something else.
What they’re really saying is that every game must be a perfect blowout like the Cowboys game. Completely out of line with the reality of football, even for dynasty teams of the past.
This is going to be a little deep but they are miserable because they project the same thought process on themselves. They must be perfect or THEY are not good enough. And since they’re clearly not perfect, that is why they are so miserable. They then project it on the team. And we look at them and wonder what the hell is wrong with them.
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7 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:
They gutted it out. I'll take any wins this time of year. Survive and advance.
To be honest, I wasn't a huge fan of the commercial free quarter. They just filled the time with collinsworth and tirico babbling or throw it to the studio to show the playoff picture for the 45th time.
Needed to plan those in-stadium breaks better for on-air content.
I love the concept. Intensity was high and reminded me of high level soccer intensity which is unbelievable.
But I agree they need better content between plays.
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Josh Allen Hattrick.
1 passing td
1 rushing td
1 Hail Mary interception
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Well thank God that nonsense is over.
Now let’s win out and not have to worry about these scenarios.
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48 minutes ago, Steptide said:
Off topic question, but what happened to all of Josh Allen's TV ads? Seemed like we saw them alot at the beggining of the season, but nothing lately
Wonder why they stopped running the Von Miller / Diggs ad too haha.
Advertisers were slow to include Allen because of the national narratives. It would only make sense they would be finicky if the Bills played poorly.
I do see him on many graphics on websites and so on, but those probably have a shorter decision cycle than TV ads.
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Recipe for Bills blowout tonight.
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I swear these people who keep saying “if X happens then we don’t deserve Y” have self esteem issues.
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39 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said:
Can the folks in WNY verify any of this:
the rumors out there are that before the Bengals playoff game was when Josh’s girlfriend was breaking up/ moving out. Police were called to his house due to the fighting going on. Josh was physically and emotionally drained by game time….Steph Diggs knew this and was in Josh’s face on the sideline to get his head out of his but and lead this team to a win…
anyone know? Brother in police that was there, etc.
This was the rumor over the summer. The rumor actually started in OP and I know of people close to the department who confirmed it, but then again they’re not in the department so who knows.
On this site, even if it was true, nobody will admit it. Which is actually a good thing.
My thoughts are, there is probably some truth in it. But let’s move on. Anybody who has ever been in a toxic relationship knows that these things happen and are a part of life.
42 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said:Can the folks in WNY verify any of this:
the rumors out there are that before the Bengals playoff game was when Josh’s girlfriend was breaking up/ moving out. Police were called to his house due to the fighting going on. Josh was physically and emotionally drained by game time….Steph Diggs knew this and was in Josh’s face on the sideline to get his head out of his but and lead this team to a win…
anyone know? Brother in police that was there, etc.
I’ll also add that events like this, and all the other difficult things that happened last year may have saved Dorsey’s job and took the miscroscope off him during the offseason.
At least until Diggs lost his cool during training camp.
2023 MVP: Lamar will win it with 15 fewer TDs than Josh Allen (end of season talk pg 75+)
in The Stadium Wall
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There’s good discussion here but in general the public perception is:
”Allen for MVP? Hahahahaha. They’re going to miss the playoffs because of his turnovers!!!”
That’s the level of discourse and thought we’re dealing with.