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Just imagine in his first few games he blow out his knee or his shoulder.

If this trade was speculated on April 1st about giving up a 1st and a conditional 1st, I wouldn't have believed it.

Just because Carson Palmer played last year has nothing to do with what his conditioning is now. We really don't know what he has been doing but it hasn't been playing football with any NFL team. Players have failed physicals in a lot less worse situations. The offseason and training camp is extremely important for a QB in preparation for the season, not only to learn the offense and chemistry with the players but conditioning as well. Carson will be obviously behind on both.

I wouldn't be surprised if the trade gets voided because he fails a physical. The guy hasn't been around football for close a year. His conditioning can't be at game level.

It's actually MUCH WORSE. You are giving up two potential first round picks for a stop back QB to win this year, taking on a gigantic salary and hasn't played football in over a year, no regular condition and doesn't know a single thing about the Raiders offensive scheme/playbook. They are making this move to win this year...Campbell has been playing great and could have certainly taken them to the playoffs if he had not gotten hurt. EPIC FAIL!

The Bengals might be the team to watch in the next 2-4 years.

The Raiders would be CRAZY to give up a first round pick and take on that salary. He is getting up in age as well. You have to remember they are doing this to win this year and he doesn't even know the playbook or offense. There is an adjustment period and it will be a little to late. What do you do with him next year? Cambell has been playing great for them. If Cincy can pull out a first round pick...wow! Great for Cincy. I agree, I forgot to also mention he hasn't played foootball in over a year. How's his conditioning even right now? Oh yea he hasn't been very good for the last 3-4 years. Your right. This can go down as one of the biggest one-sided trades of all time.

I have no interest in CFL football.

As a hardcore Bills fan all my life, I hate the games in Toronto and I am Canadian. it sucks even more because the Buffalo Bills are now competitive. A crucial game coming up and it's on a neutral field. Essentially losing any home advantage because the crowd noise and atmosphere is just lame at these games almost like a "corporate" feel to it. Even worse is at the Ralph the crowd noise has just been ridiculously loud. The bye week couldn't come at a better time though. Not only with our injuries - Williams, Jones, Merriman etc we get an extra week to prepare for the Redskins. I believe the Redskins play the Panthers next week, then the Bills in two weeks. GO BILLS!

I would disagree. Not a good move by the Rams. Glad the bills didn't waste a pick to acquire him. Do you know what they had to give up to get him? Are they dedicated to resigning him after this year? Resigning is the only way to save face here because they haven't won a game and him alone is not going to be the difference in making the playoffs this year. Their year is done. Denver won out big time because they will get a high pick in whatever round they agreed upon. Neither of those throws had to do with arm strength. They were not long bombs 40+ yard throws. The final interception was only a 25 yard pass. Every QB in the NFL has the arm strength to make that throw. It simply was just not accurate.

No kidding! The kicker is that a pass is the correct call on first down against the defense shown in hindsight. You had Stevie 1 on 1 and he beats the CB close to the line of scrimmage! Promo you just have to realize that a lot of people don't quite understand football. The "call" doesn't fall on the head coach, it falls on the players in this case the quarterback not executing the throw.

Yes you are probably correct. It's a stretch. They are usually guys with 1 year left on their contract but there is so much talk about acquiring Wr's and really don't need one. What we really need is defense.

Since you have the facts tell me what Freddie did in the 2nd half? We were successful in the 1st half running the football NOT in the second half. Throwing the ball on first down is not a bad call. If they ran I wouldn't be screaming either, but in hindsight and how the defense scheme was a pass play was certainly not a wrong call.

Wr's are not the problem. The obvious problem is the defense. We need any depth possible. We employ a hybrid scheme so I would be for a pass rush 4-3 end or LB (3-4) I'm not for adding a guy with 1 year left on his contract but otherwise I would be game.

AMEN BRO!

This is Dick Jauron football not Chan Gailey football in 2011. The facts are with the running game we really didn't do anywthing with the exception of 2 plays. One with Jackson for 80 yards and one with Brad Smith out of the wild cat. Our running game wasn't doing squat all game in context of those exceptions ESPECIALLY IN THE SECOND HALF. A passing play on first down was the correct call even in hindsight when it failed. We had our #1 receiver 1 on 1 with the CB only a few yards off and he beat at that point. YOU TAKE A SHOT AT A TOUCHDOWN EVERY SINGLE TIME. AMEN. But I don't think you will be going to bed when your wife wants to tonight.

Bills fans must have been smoking crack, high or had to many colds one today. This play has nothing to do with arm strength or "fitz arm strength". Jeez it was like a 25 yard pass. Any QB in the NFL has the arm strength to make that throw. Fitz just didn't put enough touch on either of those throws. He could have easily overthrow those passes which would make them incomplete (not a bad thing). The only thing you DON'T want to do is underthrow and give postion to the CB. Was the weather/wind a factor that messed with Fitz...i dunno (each were at opposite ends of the field)...no excuse anyways...falls on Fitz...period...

The play call was fine. People that are complaining either don't know football and the type of team we are or are suffering from a severe case of stockholm syndrome from the Dick Jauron era. 1 on 1 with the DB close to the line of scrimmage. Stevie beats him at that point. This is a basic NFL completion. One that is HIGH PERCENTAGE NOT LOW PERCENTAGE and one that is LOW RISK HIGH REWARD. All you need NOT to do is lay a duck that is severely under thrown. That play falls on the QB and know one else. Otherwise it is a touchdown or incompletion where the DB has no chance at the football.

I will take that play over and over again. 1 on 1 coverage, Stevie beats his man at the line. This is a high percentage completion at this point. Fitzy just failed miserably.

I actually agree with them here...lol. Play calling wasn't the problem. The play just wasn't executed by the QB. 1 on 1 coverage, wr beats his man. QB just underthrew it. If we run it, people complain Chan Gailey is Dick Jauron, if we throw it we should have been killing the clock. Pretty easy to be critical in hindsight. The only thing to be critical with that play is Fitzy. Even in hindsight I actually don't mind the aggressive mentality of the play calling. Its who Chan Gailey and our offense is. We spread the ball out.

I agree bro. With 20 -30MPH winds today, it will be very important to establish the ground game first. If there is one game you might see Spiller get a lot of touches is today in complement to Jackson. I hope we see a lot of Spiller and Brad Smith out of the backfield today.

I agree with you. While a guy like Wayne will bring some temporary euphoria (like TO), I'm not sure he would make any sort of tangible difference in what this team is trying to accomplish this year like making the playoffs. Like you said we are a young football team still building (we need all these picks). The bills have proved so far they can plug n play young talent and still be successful especially on offense. I don't think we need to jump this shark yet.

With all the talk about Reggie Wayne and Brandon Floyd... I really don't like these type of trades in the middle of the season especially in the final year of the contract, regardless of the sport. I'm just not talking about football, but hockey (sigh... for the playoff push), baseball etc. I can't think of any success stories with WR's and Randy Moss in New England doesn't count because that was an off-season transaction.

Am I the only one that sees that this guy starts to run lazy routes when he doesn't get the ball? We don't need lazy route runners in this offensive system. I'm torn with him.

Didn't the Jets make it to the Championship game too? I measure the Bears and Jets success mainly on their defenses. An elite defense with amazing special teams can get you VERY far in the NFL. But this thread is not judging the Bears overall. Going to the Championship games doesn't negate that their offense is a mess, partially to blame on the scheme employed. That's the point we are arguing here.