Wayne Cubed

True but for accuracy sake, he’s not officially out.

He is not, he’s listed as DOUBTFUL.

There’s nothing nonsense about it. They have injuries elsewhere with Poyer/Rosseau not playing and the possibility of Elam not playing. They only get 2 PS elevations. They may need an extra DL and possibly a CB if Tre still isn’t ready to go. Playing games and wasting that spot on Barkley, if Allen is fine, makes no sense.

Sorry but they don’t activate Barkey every week. If Josh’s elbow is fine and he can play, there is literally no reason to activate him. And you can say precaution but again, Allen could be injured any week and Barkley isn’t active. If they activate Barkley, Allen is less likely to play. If they don’t, he’s playing. Haha. Had the same exact thought. And then also thought, does Allen share his health with the whole family? Or just immediate family and then they leak it out?

Right I don’t think it means he’s out but I think it’s more telling to where the injury is at. If the elbow is good to go, there is no need to activate him. So if they don’t, that’s a good sign he’s playing. If they do, I think it’s much more in doubt.

I guess, I just think if Allen was going to start and play, that means they think his elbow is fine. Why waste one of the 3 times you can elevate Barkley?

I think him being up means there’s no chance Allen is starting, let alone playing.

Still think we will know by 4pm today if they elevate Barkley off the practice squad. They wouldn’t allow Allen to be the backup, if there’s no chance he can play. You wouldn’t risk him being forced into action.

He was dominant against the Rams on opening day. Then he was injured, missed 4 games. I’m not sure his ankle is right yet. I always find these thread interesting after a loss and not after the LA game, for example.

Ground up and in the freezer?

Think you are confused. The designation the NFL got rid of was “probable.” Pre 2017 there were 4 designations a teams could use: probable, questionable, doubtful, out. Belichick used to be the master of the probable designation, to keep teams guessing. Now teams only have 3 designations to use but doubtful is definitely still one. https://operations.nfl.com/media/2683/2017-nfl-injury-report-policy.pdf

Hard to know really. Like I said, Josh was a different thrower of the ball in 2018 and a different QB in general. I don't recall thinking he was limited throwing, ie couldn't make the throws, back then. Though that's just my memory. All the whispers seem to indicate this is less severe than 2018?

Eh? He had a Grade 2 UCL sprain his rookie season, rested 4 weeks and then came back. He didn't require surgery, so I'm not sure where you are getting that from for a Grade 2 sprain. Grade 3, yea then we are probably talking Tommy John's Surgery but literally no one is saying that or speculating that. Will he be at his best if he rests it a bit and wears the brace like he did his rookie year? Hard to know, he was a completely different thrower and player back then.

Voted zero on the elbow but I know a pretty good doctor that could look at his spleen.

Didn't want the Bills to go after him but why would you help a team within your division?

Obviously you are just being ignorant now. The Bills are good in Nickel, that isn't arguable. It's their base defense, the Bills are a good defense. Both facts. Therefore they are good in the Nickel. They weren't trying to pass because the Nickel makes it hard to do it. They were able to beat it 2 times for a TD because they still have a HOF Qb playing for them. This hill you want to die on is just nuts.

Mate, can you read? I said when presented. No where in my post did I say Rodgers was consistently beating the Nickel. He beat it twice, because GASP the Bills are really good in the Nickel. But obviously the Bills should have given up that Nickel, to protect aginst the run... which was working, your words, when it wasn't because they ran out of time and lost the game. And this amazing hypothetical change of defense, we will never know would have actually worked... but we don't need to know because the Bills in fact won the game. Thank you. No ones saying that. You are saying that.

And we should also completely ignore the fact that, when presented with the opportunity to hurt us with a big play, Rogers was STILL able to do it. That was with the Bills defense playing Nickel. But we should have abandoned Nickel defense to stop the run, which was working... even though it wasn't cause they lost, to let Aaron attempt to beat us throwing, which he showed he could still in fact do.

Agree with Gunner, the tackling wasn't good which is why the running yards were higher than normal. Other than that, the strategy was correct. The Bills defense does not care about yards. They'll take yards over points, every time. Also, the poor offensive showing the sencond half, didn't punish the Packers.

Doing what worked and losing the game. You can't make this stuff up. The Bills just took the ball out of the reigning back-to-back MVPs hands, and let's be honest he still is the best player on that team, and turned them into a running team. But, it's what they do best 🙄

You don't go to a 4-3-4 because Taron Johnson > Tyrel Dodson. However bad the GB wide recievers are there's a major difference between this and the New England game and that's the guy throwing the football. You can talk about how bad the WR group is, and they are bad but it's still Rodgers dealing the ball, not Mac Jones. And Rodgers 2 touchdowns show you that he can still throw it. He can still read the defense and pick you apart. They allowed the Packers to "do what they do best' and that still wasn't enough to beat the Bills. In fact it pretty much played them out of the game. Their best player on offense is still Aaron Rodgers and the Bills took the ball out of his hands. Just like with the Bills when you take the ball out of Josh's hands, it's a win for the defense when the Bills are running the ball more than throwing. Yea I wouldn't call that dink/dunk either but what I would call dink/dunk are the short throws and screens... which the Packers were running a lot of. They also ran the ball, which I said is what you do against Cover 2.

I’ve got to slightly disagree with this. Frazier refused to bring a safety down into the box and refused to sub off Taron Johnson for a LB. The Pack did exactly what you are meant to do against the cover 2 shell, you run into it and dink/dunk your way down the field. And that’s going to happen against that alignment. The issue is, can you sustain that many plays in a drive without committing an error. And when the field compresses as you get towards the goal line can you punch it in for 7? The Pack couldn’t do it. That’s an effective defensive game plan. Sure, the rush numbers look high but does that matter if they aren’t converting any of those drives? You also have to say that had the offense not laid an egg in the 2nd half, this outcome would have been very different.

I don’t think it’s doom and gloom to point out the Bills looked pretty flat/bad in the 2nd half. That’s just being observational. It was a combination of things, thought the offensive play calling was pretty bad. Josh made mistakes and was trying to force it. Mental errors that led to penalties. Not as worried about the run defense, I think there was no way Frazier was going to bring an extra safety into the box or bring an extra LB on the field. All those yards on the ground and time used up, the Pack sort of played themselves out of the game.

I'd say that angle is no where near indicitive of how much the roof covers. You can see the lower seating in that image and how much of the seating is actually covered.