RevWarRifleman

Well put K-9. We who remember the beginning years of the AFL also remember the barbs/insults from the NFL & sports writers. Like him or not being in the Hall, Namath did a lot to raise the popularity of the league. More people started paying attention to the AFL and their faster paced, more modern style of play. The fact that he was the qb for the AFL's first SB win didn't hurt his chances of being in the HOF as well as putting the AFL firmly in the minds of all pro football fans across the nation. Well put K-9. We who remember the beginning years of the AFL also remember the barbs/insults from the NFL & sports writers. Like him or not being in the Hall, Namath did a lot to raise the popularity of the league. More people started paying attention to the AFL and their faster paced, more modern style of play. The fact that he was the qb for the AFL's first SB win didn't hurt his chances of being in the HOF as well as putting the AFL firmly in the minds of all pro football fans across the nation.

T&C, Thanks for posting this. I'm sending a copy of this list to an old Air Force buddy of mine & his wife. Such memories. Arguably the best year ever for production of music in rock and roll history.

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This one's from the old days, that I've always got a laugh. The guys that bought season tickets at the Rock Pile that included a seat for their 1/4 keg of beer they'd bring to Bills games. That's classic. For us that remember the Rock Pile days, it's fitting. FWIW that's my memory.

Good on you plenz. When I was teaching Am. Hist, I would be sure to show my students the documentary on these young people. They were gutsy kids that tried to make a difference in a difficult area of our nation.

Rest in Peace John. Thank you for all you did in your time here with us.

Anarchist? Ha! Hardly. Tell you what Gugny, ignore the "Hi" at the start of that post & your world will all be back in alignment again. In the meantime, stay safe,

four, five, who cares?

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Washington Generals? Washington Swamp Drainers? The Washington Presidents? The Belt Way Bandits?

Yes, he belongs in the HOF. He made a big difference in a lot of games. Some of which were playoff games.

Ok Bill, you're on. I'm a bit of a fan of Winwood. What questions would you have for him? And while we're at it, what questions would for Raquel? Inquiring minds want to know.

Yes, and he's very direct too. Doesn't mince words & tells it like it is. I think we'll be seeing him more & more on the networks over the next 6 months.

I like your Steve Schmidt choice! Was thinking about putting that one down too.

Well, I wouldn't have a beer because I don't drink alcohol anymore. But my 5 people would be: Jeff Beck John Meacham Jim Kelly Jane Curtin Madelyn Allbright

I remember studying this same kind of dynamic in college. The Rise of Nazism in Germany! We're in very troubled times ladies & gentlemen.

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I'm a Vietnam "Era" vet. Air Force '68 - 72. But I had a few encounters with Vietnam vets. The encounters made an indelible impression, in a positive way. I'll share: I was stationed for 2 yrs in Anchorage, Ak. Our base was a refueling stop for Aero Vac flights from Nam going to the states for their medical discharge. These are the guys that got hit badly & they were returning for their medical discharge for they were too banged up for any further service. They always came through night, 9, 10 o'clock Alaska time. I was at the Flight Line cafeteria after a night school class & saw these guys coming through to get some food while their plane was refueling. It was, to me at least pretty bad. Guys coming in with heads bandaged up, arms in braces, legs banged up & walking on crutches,etc,etc. I was barely out of my teens myself and I remember thinking "that these guys' lives are forever changed"! Some of them were probably athletes in high school like me and will never be able to play sports like they did in school. That, and other things like that drifted through my mind as I returned to my room in the barracks. I had a few other times in that cafeteria at before my tour their was up. I never forgot about those guys throughout my life. Would tell my students about them and other times to my students when the were learning about the Vietnam War. I wanted to give them, especially the boys, something to think about concerning war. Over time, and many years now, I still think about those gentleman. I've shed tears for them, They helped me to grown up a bit as I've thought of them back when I was a young man. I hope they all lead happy, healthy lives.

Ahhhh Moulds! Great receiver. There's an awesome image I have of him from a pic several years ago somebody on the message board posted of him. It was when he was in college. He was catching a ball in the end zone, and he jumped so high, his hips were at the height of the heads of the opposing players that were around him. And those players were standing straight up! Where he is with me in ranking the Bills receivers? #3. Why? I put Dubenion at #2. Duby played in an era where a receiver could get mugged by the D- backs during those AFL years and there would be no flag thrown. And that's no fault of Moulds. But I've got to plug our guys from the AFL days. "They must not be forgotten."

Well put, Alpha. I agree with it all, particularly the growing pains part. I too haven't been this excited about the Bills in 20 years. Feels great! Hope this virus doesn't influence things too badly and we can still have a season. But that's another topic.

I understand about the Jets game in week 17 last year. But they lost to the Ravens & the Pats in that final 4 game stretch of the season. And I feel that a certain mind set may have taken place.

Alphadawg, I hope you're right w/ the 12+ wins. But what concerns me is how the Bills finished last year. They went 1 - 3 in the last 4 games of the regular season, and in the playoff game they were up on the Texans 16 - zip mid-way through the 3rd quarter and ended up losing that one. That's part coaching, as well as the players fault. If the Bills want to play with the "Big Dogs", they've got to do better than that. And I hope they do.

GRHater69, GREAT post! That was a great read of the years I specified. Good info, well laid out and explained. Thanks a lot!