RevWarRifleman

I'm glad we didn't pick him also. Especially in the early rounds! Trade up for a project player?? No way. We needed a huge infusion of talent in a lot of areas, especially on defense. I like Tebow and his attitude, but to waste an early round pick (within the first 3 rounds) on a project would have been a huge mistake, exactly like we've seen so many times on draft day the previous 11 years.

Thanks for taking the time & explaining the process,John. Hopefully there will be something positive towards a deal to report this week.

TPS, good post. And good info., too. I especially agree w/ the "insurance and backup to Merriman" part. I know that some posters on this board think he's washed up, but I feel he still has a presence on the field as shown in the first few games last year. Yes I know he didn't get sacks, but I think he's still trying to come along w/ that achilles. That said, hey if he lays-an-egg this season, cut your losses & move on. If he has a good season, keep him for a few more years, meanwhile grooming the young pass rusher we got the round 2. And I agree, it must be the off, off-season. I HATE this time of year. The Bills are pretty much all the sports I care to follow, so I'm like what Vic Carucci mentioned, "for Bills fans, there's two season, Bill's season, and waiting for Bill's season." beer

In the 2001 draft, Bills select Drew Brees in the first round,instead of being drafted in the SECOND ROUND by San Diego!!

I get ya. Cool. And I can agree to the best wide out of all time if he were more mature & a better work ethic! Catch you later.

K-9, c'mon man! Randy Moss?

I did the 'Outsider' play on words dig for their calling Wannstadt a "new hire." Not about their overall opinion. That's all.

Yeh, maybe that's why they're the 'Outsiders'.

I always loved that lyric. Perfect.

Trade Fred? No. Why should we create more holes in our line up? That's what this franchise has done year after year for the past 12 years! End result? A dozen years of poor to mediocre won-lose records, and no playoff appearances.

Ditto. And it's consistant w/ Bellicheat's character too.

The Pro Bowl is a concept that has WAY out-lived its time. Yeh, a skills competition or something along those lines, AFC vs NFC that would make the players really want to be comptitive so it would ramp up fan interest.

Amen brother.

Agree. Vote him in.

Yup,Joe was a pioneer in a pioneering league. Gotta say thanks to all the people that posted on this topic. Irregardless of where you stand on Joe Namath the player, the human being, whatever. I enjoyed the shared knowledge, insights, stories, and memories. Especially the memories. The 1960's were a GREAT decade for sports. Our Bills, and the AFL & people like Joe added a LOT of excitement to a decade that was JAMMED PACT with excitement. The stories must live on, and they must never be forgotten. RWR

Good Luck to Andre Reed this Saturday. I hope he makes it! Hope Tasker makes it soon, too.

Thank you, Simon for posting this. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I didn't know the list was anywhere NEAR this extensive. What do you suppose it is?

Tony Hunter, ha. How about Mark Bramer?

For whatever it may be worth, my original intent in posting this topic was not som much about Joe, but how that little region in one state, out of all 50 of our states, has been the home territory of SO MANY great NFL players. No other region in the country can claim that!!!! That's fascinating to me. That's phenominal to me. But it turned into this grand debate about Namath deserving or not, to be in the HOF. I was hoping to get comments, and insights, stories of possibly why that region is so unique. The original post was more about the region, not so much about Joe & the HOF.

Rock & Roll HOF is pretty awesome, too. I'll be going back to that place at least 12 to 2 more times too. Both HOF places, you have to plasn on being there for several hours because there's so much great stuff. Thanks for posting the Google pic, Buftex. Go Bills!

FYI, Namath's knee brace is in a glass case in the HOF. Looks like a medical device from the Civil War! It had to be brutal just to wear that thing let alone play w/ it on. Been to the HOF twice. First in '85 to see OJ get inducted, but along with him, ironically, Joe, as well as Staubach. Enjoyed the ceremonies & the Hall very much. (They also have Y.A. Title's broken Giant's helmet from the 1963 Championship game.) That gear back then was NOT high tech. Second time I was at the HOF was in 2002 to see Marv get enshrined. Swan & Jack Yougblood went in the Hall that year as well. Remember Youngblood? Played an NFC championship game with a broken leg. Now there's a true AFL'er. If you love pro football & haven't visited the HOF, put it on your MUST DO bucket list! You'll be glad you did. I'll probably be going back yet again at least one other time before my time is done.

Exactly Section 237!! It's about perspective. If you lived during the time, then you remember the back-drop from whence the events took place. That's what you nailed when U put "Everything needs context." Spot on. And that's when memories do "Kinda come flooding back." You remember so much else, and the emotions are there as well. I tried putting that in, the back drop of that era in football, in earlier posts on the topic. People that didn't live during the Namath era, have a different view of him, even if they do like & appreciate the guy, because they weren't around to remember when he was playing & what pro football was like, they go to other things they think puts things accurately....stats.

K-9, somewhere in the heavens, you know Jack Kemp is smiling down on guys like you & I and others. Go Bills is right

Bmore, there's way more to Joe Namath than SB III. He changed the football landscape in America. Before SB III, he was the first QB to throw for 4,000 yards - on a 12 game regular season schedule!! The Jets under Namath showed that you could use the pass to set up the run. No teams in the NFL, including the '69 Colts were doing that. All of those teams were following in lock-step the Lombardy Packers,"we're gonna run the ball in the ALLY". If you were watching the Jets, and other AFL teams in the 60's, it was like watching the Saints today. It was fast-break football & Namath was instumental in that phenominon. Now swith the chanel in the 1960's & watch the NFL, doesn't matter the match up: Bears vs Lions, Packers v 49'ers, Giants v Eagles.....it was like watching paint dry. Namath was a cult hero that permanantly changed the sports landscape, not just the football landscape in America. He desrves to be in the HOF. He earned it!!!

Ha!! Great stuff! Well, crapping nails will come in handy with all those outdoor projects I got lined up this spring. Let the "experiment" begin.