dayman

States don't address citizenship ...

So wait do you guys want to slash spending right now or not...getting a little confusing in here....

Well the system absolutely should favor educated people...the problem is we don't let enough of them in and it takes forever. And also, we have some stupid rule about equal number from various countries when an overwhelming number of the best immigrants come from just a few such as India.

I mean, there isn't an official plan/no official language yet but general speaking that's basically the plan. Nobody is talking about a fast track...except maybe for the kids (and even that isn't clear)

lol either way dude it's a different time we need to fix up the system so we actually have one... but the main thing we want is some nice young STEM educated immigrants...we don't need to just open the border....

Feel free to explain to me, or link a public speaking engagement (of which she has many and many of which I've seen) where she's really, truly, contributing to the debate in the country. Please, if there's something I've missed and she's a valuable contributor to our society...let me know...I will view with an open mind.

I 100% believe it personally and completely...in private...I disrespect anyone who truly believes it isn't true. That said...I'm content to leave it at that...I have no desire to to get into detailed bashing of Palin or defending of Biden but as far as I'm concerned anyone who knows/follows politics beyond the absolute (and I mean absolute) surface understands why I say this even if they hate Biden and all Dems...

give me, give me, give me...that Monday after the super bowl off to worship the sweet sweet integration that was MLK

Knock Joe Biden all you want I'm not his white knight but anyone that remotely thinks he belongs anywhere near Sarah Palin in terms of uselessness and stupidity (from the view point of any party) is ... themselves...a complete and utter dumb ass...and as to that I truly mean if you legitimately feel that Sarah Palin > Joe Biden you have absolutely no idea what is going on...

While some may not agree....as I see it the victim complex is strong within virtually every sect of our society and has always been...that's not to say that today or ever has it been the quality that advances us...but in the grand scheme we always seem to advance...

Why is it on Sunday? Is there some tv knowledge that says people won't watch on sat? Also labillz everyone know fantasy is over by now... 3rd...MLK's legacy would only expand if he gave us this gift

Let us celebrate his life the day after the superbowl

They're about to destroy the girls in cookie sales

imo that hurts intelligent moderates. Like this story: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/democrats-tea-party-unite-to-defeat-mitch-mcconnell-86787.html Dem groups funding a Tea Party candidate to argue McConnell compromises too much and is too willing to govern with his fellow senators....it's crazy. McConnell is quite conservative and has stood his ground his fair share. It's stupid to fuel the anger and opposition to all things cooperative and all instances of moving to the middle. This hurts everybody imo....

He's given a lot to this country...he can give a little more

I hate this line of logic...they need to spend resources on good people w/ points of view that add to society...there are only two parties...

Agreed on dumbasses who schedule this stuff. Wait all through the holiday season and then the college football championship is on a Monday during a work week. Superbowl...nothing else going on and they stick on a Sunday night. Sick of this crap. That said, I would gladly swap and celebrate one of the Birthday's or even Labor day on the day following the super bowl.

Reminds me of Carville saying Pennsylvania is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between...hehe.

"The thing is that we've actually seen in practice, you can say idealy lets have a plan to reduced the deficit 5 years out, 10 years out, while at teh same time doing stimulus for the economy, Washington doesn't work that way. If you spend a lot of your time saying the debt and the deficit are the big problem, the message that what we need to do now is promote jobs gets lost. And in fact we've spent the last 2.5 years focused entirely about the long term deficits and entitlements and doing nothing for employment, that balance has got to shift." (Krugman in the above video) That quote basically sums it up

Well while after watching the entire interview less than an hour ago, just not what I saw. No doubt you can easily rail against him for being totally soft on the urgency of those problems and probability of not avoiding them, but it's a little disingenuous to say that he flat wouldn't do anything since he says in the interview if we were dealing with some all powerful King that could just do things with a snap of a finger he would. In any event, as for me, I do believe we need to do something. I also believe Krugman is right when he says right now if you are comparing the two...growth now is more important.

Once again, to repeat myself, it's about the priorities/emphasis and what we should be most concerned with (not purely concerned with) today. Why is it if you had to make a to do list you would put addressing an estimated 15 year cost challenge ahead of growth today when we know we have to pick up growth today and address healthcare costs of the future? The basic truth is the entire video is there for anyone to watch...they can see the entire interview and actually listen to what he says which btw is heavily edited in the quote you just posted...

Except it's mere projection to suggest that it's do this forever in his opinoin w/ long term shifts in policy contrary to this be damned. He says himself in that interview right there...he would turn into a fiscal hawk once jobs hit their stride and interest rates go up. And as for what happened to the economy...I think he might disagree with you as to why it tanked and has since had only modest bounce back....

Look if you want to fixate on it that's fine. His point was simple...that fixating on locking in cuts we think we'll need in 15 years is less important than applying brain power to growth now...and he say at some point that if we were run by philosopher kings it would be fantastic to do both now but given that we can't seem to the one of the two to pick is obvious...

He's basically just expressing a similar feeling as I did here; http://forums.twobil...of-the-sameimo/ In saying that being totally focusing on budget and long term fiscal issues and proceeding form crisis/showdown to crisis/showdown over that we aren't getting anything done regarding more urgent issues such as ways to stimulate the economy now. And at least a few people, including those who often disagree with me, managed to muster a "I don't disagree with you" in that topic...I mean it's easy for people (certainly conservatives) to pile on Krugman but it might be interesting to give it some thought with an open mind as to why he says what he says...

Hehe, I mean I don't know what to tell you I just watched the video. I heard what he was saying throughout the interview. He doesn't imply that we should simply ignore it, his point is that the priority should be jobs not locking into benefit cuts that take place in the future. And in his opinion, once again just stating his opinion since I just watched it, is that the climate change analogy is terrible b/c "every year we don't do something we put 35 billion tons of carbon dioxide into the air, what exactly are doing this year that will make it harder for us to deal with healthcare costs in 2025?" He just saying that saying that we have to lock in healthcare changes now that we think we will have to make in 15 years is not comparable urgency....and in fact he would put job simulating measures ahead of locking in healthcare changes for 15 years from now in terms of urgency...