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Where the hell did these "myths" come from? Never heard any of them....

IDK I don't follow every ****ty team that picks top 5 a lot but I'm still seeing some guys I wouldn't like on our team in top 3. Tyson Jackson, JaMarcus, Vince Young, Alex Smith...there are some other guys I'm not sure who they are. Anyone...I agree this has flaws to point is to just look at the names (w/ help from the stats) and realize it's still a crap shoot. That said 50/50 is odds I'd take for the Bills. Better odds than we've had in the past the way we pick. Either way...these are the guys that have gone top 5 since '04...it's a damn good list...but it's not some all world list...and if I did up one for 6-10 I'm not sure it would be any worse or better....

Ok...below I've pasted the top 5 picks since '04 and their 2010 stats (for the front 7 D players...do your own homework for the offensive players and DBs) as well as the Bills stuff. I'm not entirely sure which of the stats reflect today or not...the point is to generally look at the impact anyway. AND...yes they only are stats and don't tell the whole story. BUT...it's helpful to look at. (also...forgive the formatting but c'mon obviously however it pastes is how I'm leaving it...) Some Bills stats I found (IDK if they include today or what so...) Kyle Williams - 74 tackles (52 solo) and 6 sacks Poz - 139 tackles (95 solo) and 2 sacks Kelsay - TACK SOLO FF INT SACK 63 39 1 0 3.5 Stroud - TACK SOLO FF INT SACK 47 28 1 0 3.0 Akin Ayodele - TACK SOLO FF INT SACK 93 53 2 0 0.0 Arthur "don't cross thee" Moats - TACK SOLO FF INT SACK 28 16 1 0 2.5 Spencer Johnson - 47 tackles (34 solo) and one sack 2010 2009 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 So...to me...in terms of real impact from a glance at just these stats it seems to be about 50/50 for front 7 guys. Plenty of guys in there with respectable sack #s and some tackles but others that really don't seem to be having a huge impact. Anyway 50/50 seems like good odds for our first round picks to me...I'd take it but it's not like we are guaranteed a great or even good player. Tough business pulling yourself out of the depths of defensive hell. And that's assuming that's what we try and do....we may just sit in it for a while longer... Thoughts?

IDK...once I discovered I could drag the shout box to be bigger...I don't think it is. I actually think it's worse w/ the shout box you can keep an eye on the threads too...

IDK are people from the shout box going in the chat today? I think we all sort of have our "clicks" we've been chatting w/ in game...need wide scale migration...

Meh, go ahead and just wipe it out. I'm a Fitz fan/Bills fan and it wasn't that bad. I can't complain about the ridiculousness of this **** and then cry when Fitz gets a little contact. This is football. Good luck Harrison. I actually appreciate the way he plays.

There is no rational argument for beating the Jets back-ups just so we drop 5 spots. We should lose.

....maybe....

Chargers, Bucs, Saints, and Falcons all comparatively the same as the Jags. The Falcons a little better. Saints are TERRIBLE people just forget that b/c they won the superbowl recently and sort of have a little "hotness" to them w/ Katrina emotions and the team. In time they will once again drop down. The Bucs fans suck, and the Bucs are quietly in worse financial shape than the Jaguars. Chargers fans are a joke, they have an awesome team and they don't care. Not saying the Jags fans don't suck or that they aren't necessarily the worst, but there are many other teams close in terms of shittyness.

Can't expect people to know all that much about us even professional reporters b/c quite frankly, nobody but us watches these games. Nobody.

Look at these! http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/tebowetheus-unbound-part-1 http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-playbook-abides-tebowetheus-unbound-part-2 http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-playbook-abides-tebowetheus-unbound-part-3 All I can say wow. That may be a little over the top. But I'd love to find some of that for us. Certainly for our D.

Money line! Go Bills! This is our year! (for real though 9 is a bit much I'd consider taking the points)

FBomb. I'm down. Double meaning,works in teh good and the bad. Suits us well.

Disagree. First off there are many teams worse than the Jags in terms of interest (or at least on par with them) despite popular belief. NO WAY Cali should get 4 teams. Move SD or Oakland to LA if they want a team.

Those are the same teams always mentioned Buffalo is still in them as long as Ralph is old and won't say what happens when he dies.

Bill needs to come coach us if our team is so great...

He seems to know his stuff but he best respect the great Donald Jones he didn't mention him. Omit him at your own peril Bill.

Big and physical. Good. Let's do this.

Oh man Fitz is an Apple fanatic? And here I used to think the guy was smart...

Hey Barbarian why don't you stfu and wait a bit huh? Just saying....we'll give him next year then we'll destroy his reputation

I'm happy. I'm a die hard fan of a losing team. A perpetual loser. Are my standards high? No. Should they be? Maybe they should, maybe it's a blessing they aren't. I'm happy with the team as of right now. I was prepared to hit bottom and we did and now I see us getting better.

Kind of haha. I mean...I've always thought he'd be a solid guy who cares about a winning and stuck with us through the hard times. I've always thought he'd be a solid guy on the hypothetical "future Bills," that are good. If he's holding us up for money, or acting like we aren't giving him enough love in the negotiations...then I'm ready to bail. As someone who has defended him in the past...well it makes me very bitter.

No pick is going to live up to the hype unless it's a defensive front 7 player. When a few of those do, and we can actually play "normal" games where we are in them the entire time (as opposed to getting blown out or passing all over to come back) then these other guys can make a big play that allows us to win. Then they will "live up" to the hype.

I constantly defend Whitner, have for a while from the haters. He's gotten WAY too much hate...although I admit he's come no where near living up to his pick or his pay. But he's been solid. If at this point all these crappy underachievers feel they deserve big contracts b/c they are the best we have on our bad team or b/c they were drafted a certain area or b/c they've been in the locker room a while and think of themselves as "leaders"...well then...!@#$ them. Good by Donte. Don't let the door hit you in your greedy ass on the way out. Whoever we plug in will do just about as well perhaps better for less money. !@#$ you Donte. I bought your jersey opening week of your rookie year thinking you might be a Sean Taylor. You were not. Go !@#$ yourself.

Agreed. I'm currently happy about the Bills and where they are going. Now, as the other guy said...overall no. But I agree...we know how to "live in the moment" that's for sure. NO Bills fans are unhappy that we aren't the best the world. Haha.