I guess it comes down, on that point, to where you are at. I'd start bringing them home sooner if at all possible. I support the 2014 deadline b/c it's been 11 years...and I don't want to sit in Afghanistan forever. So as a "bring them home yesterday" person ... don't mind it. I think Joe did a good job articulating that it's time for them to do it, and Ryan just couldn't get this through his head...if we don't think they can do it...then what we'll do it forever? Don't think that's a very popular stance....