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Bill Nelson v. Connie Mack Fla Senate Race There's a race a reasonable Repub could vote Dem. Nelson ain't bad, and Mack is a complete retard. And of all the Repubs up...Scott Brown is clearly on the more likable. Of course the GOP has a knack for making that basically the same as winning the special Olympics but it's still saying something. Bottom line is you don't want people who sign on to partisan quests to destroy people politically in December of 2008 when the country is in free fall...the idea that you can just sit on the sidelines and B word and not play and know that if the other side fixes it you'll get reelected b/c things are good and if they don't you resume power...that's the highlight of partisan hackery. I'm looking at you Mitch Mcconnell and Eric Cantor...and btw I'll throw Issa in there too just b/c the guy is about as transparently partisan as he could be. Of course there are partisan civilians (on this board) who look at this paragraph and say either 1) it isn't true (it is) or 2) that's brilliant (this is the saddest response). EDIT: And just to toss a Dem under the buss for a transparent attempt to be moderate...Mcconnell may have publicly declared their goal was a 1 term presidency...but Pelosi declared her goal was to elect more democrats when she gained the majority. So ...I'm willing to toss her to the wolves she deserves it. Then again it isn't what you say, it's if you work in good faith w/ the goal of reaching an agreement. There are tons of people who should to tossed out. Although it really comes down to the party powers who set the tone and whip everyone into line.

ARRA

Feb 4, 2009. Pretty significant date. 13 days prior to Obama dropping a science bomb like never before seen. Not to say btw, that defense of certain Bush budgets are not just.

Do they meet in December and then officially report the results to the new Congress in January? http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/28109.pdf The electoral vote results are counted and declared at a joint session of Congress, held on January 6 of the year succeeding the election. New Congress convenes on January 3rd.

Hmmm...I'm not trying to argue that is an interesting link. Other sources claim differently.... What happens next? According to the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution, a tied Electoral College, which reports results to the new Congress early in January, shifts the presidential choice to the new House of Representatives, with each state's delegation as a whole casting one vote. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/terry-connelly/electoral-college-tie_b_2001724.html Also here's a non-huffington post claiming it's the newly elected house/senate: If there is a tie in the electoral college (and, as I explain below, there could be), it will be up to the newly elected House of Representatives to elect a President and the newly elected Senate to elect the Vice President. http://www.archives.gov/legislative/features/1800-election/1800-election.html

I'll second Oxrock's "Hear, Hear!" Represent the people, no the party.

I don't have a link. But I believe it is very strange. I think the newly elected Congress votes but it is somehow1 vote per state. Which is quite strange. Then the Senate for some reason, votes normally. If that is a tie in the house. Boehner become President free and clear. lol

The machine is designed to convince us that we are always on the verge of victory, always have our enemies on the run, so that we feel the blood and money we waste is worth it. However, the threat will endlessly evolve and shift and thus require huge budgets, more money, continued "war time civil rights," and nonstop war for the rest of time. There is no need to reevaluate though, b/c we are always on the verge of victory. While this dynamic does little for our fiscal health, ability to address domestic issues, or our national security...it makes some people very rich and ultimately some of that money funnels back into campaign bank accounts of patriots on the Hill who keep us safe and ride the chicken hawk rhetoric to reelection.

This is more of a state issue. I agree that the political parties would still be "in line" and also there are positive effects to not having term limits. As much as Washington sucks, people do eventually get somewhat competent in specialized areas...it would be frustrating to those who must deal with government to have people they've worked with over the course of multiple sessions creating or refining things only to start over every 2, 4, or 6 years.

Drug war/other civil liberty issues, political reform, climate change, poverty

Obama makes frank argument about the difficulty of Romney meeting his commitments and his ability to meet more of his in a 2nd term: http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/24/14668862-obama-in-off-the-record-interview-laid-out-path-to-fiscal-immigration-deals?lite Issa in such a hurry to post documents that certain individuals and militias were named which may have been better off not named for their own sake and for the investigations sake: http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/19/issa_s_benghazi_document_dump_exposes_several_libyans_working_with_the_us

Not that I really care although I find the string of these to be funny...but in all honesty w/ out being partisan how can you say that isn't basically what he said. "Even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen." This whole "you don't get it" gig is stupid...there isn't much to get. Life is wonderful and it's Gods intent, even when it comes from rape. Duck boy doesn't have anything wrong there...

Mr. Wolfers estimated that it cost the traders responsible $1,250 to give Mr. Romney, the Republicans’ nominee, a six-minute surge. wut?

I believe he's up but 5 sounds like quite a bit in Ohio. Last I heard on the radio it was 1 or 2 538 has it tighter than that

I will read it with an open mind.

Just got to get it right and show Obama's karate fight w/ Osama

i try

October Surprise is to late round suckerpunch what surprise sex is to rape (or legitimate, or forcible, or emergency rape if you like)

Vote yes/no on prop 10000

DOJ suing on behalf of Fannie and Freddy who had "no idea" these loans were so bad eh? And demanding repurchase of mortgages going under b/c of the economy when they refuse to write them down at the request of various gov't interests? Shocking...

obviously, but you are smart enough to catch my meaning

Pointless response. Continue on collecting information only from sources designed to get you see the world one way and discounting all others. The quest for some magic neutral all-knowing source of news is a joke of a point to make. The point is, you should consume news and opinion from a variety of sources with an open mind and then you think for yourself. The idea that the entire media is out to get you and suppress your conservative nature is a complete blinder that has been pulled over your eyes (apparently to your pleasure) and your news consumption is only confirming your existing bias, not allowing you to think differently even if you ultimately disagree...and you are just making yourself more closed off intellectually and ultimately more stupid. I can't keep track of all the posters to know which ones should be flagged or not...it's hard sometimes you miss.

Actually, it was a long time ago the Soviets beat us into space. And it was a long time ago the Soviets ceased to exist. And there is no cold war anymore, that ended a long time ago. And the forces that are realistic threats to this nation are not going to leap frog us if we scale back our military and spend like a sane nation instead of a paranoid group of maniacs still living a cold war that has long since ceased. We would not need to our current level of spending and if we prioritized our foreign policy adventures and made the operation of our military more efficient...even if you disagree with that (which find ridiculous) the argument that we need MORE and must continue to feed the bloating beast is absolutely absurd. Contrary to my reputation here I am somewhat of an independent despite my support of Obama in this election and feelings about the direction the GOP has taken over the last few years...it's been a while but did some thinking and some reading on this issue (b/c I wasn't sure I opposed the push for more more more) and it became obvious to me after reading various articles many of which written by budget staffers that the entire thing is out of control. In fact, I would go so far as to say the complex being out of control is common knowledge. So I'm rather confused by this hard line "more more more" stance some take even to this day. And it's rather strange to insist on a detailed budget analysis from someone on a message board, but even more so when the counter argument is about as vague as it gets "soviets beat us to the moon, technology changes, we need more to keep our advantage over (unnamed threat)."

Bud why on earth are so hell bent on thinking the world is out to get you? You do realize the MSM is not MSNBC correct? Do you watch/read any non-conservative sources to affirm what conservoblogs and Fox tell you about the rest of the media? This conditioned sense of victimization you have has prodcued such a gross overcorrection in the way you view information sources that it has put you square in the palm of a single private political party counting on you to not think critically about their own narrative and not even consider the viewpoint (or even just a reporting) of anything from a source not sanctioned by them. Not only has it turned in you into a mindless drone for them, but it's rendered you incapable of functioning independently within your own party ...

Personally, I think you would be a fool to vote Jonson if you live in Virginia and want Obama gone...whether or not Romney polls another 2 or 3 % higher over the next week.