dayman

lol I was very much there...and I never said I was a true catholic ever...not as in I never said that...as in I never was and never said that...took me a while to figure out if I should walk my ass up there and not eat the thing or just not walk up...how to be respectful in Catholic church...there should be a youtube tutorial on that.

Oh my bad bowing...another good example of a nonsense fixation. In another thread someone else was sort of idealising generations past, particularly the WWII crowd. One thing is for certain, if fellow countrymen began to consistently roll their eyes and not take things seriously b/c of consistent, premature, dramatic overplay for partisan purposes they wouldn't continue on emboldened claiming the others are simply out of their mind. They would at some point have some introspection and humility...regardless of what you think when you ask everyone around you what's up with you...there is no where to run. No shame in hitting this hard on certain points...lots of shame in this topic and in the conservative bloc right now though. Bash Obama on policy, Libya, but do it legitimately. (fyi I thought I was in the Libya topic when I wrote this hehe so consider that for context when reading)

Everybody belongs above politically motivated conspiracy theories against any president. I'm certainly no opposer of criticism and skepticism but this circus is act 2 of fast and furious desperately trying to find anything that supports the natural conclusion that Obama is personally liable of national shame and impeachment. Tom is above this. B/c he chooses to be.

Tom is no friend of Obama but yall turn on him the moment he calls it as he sees it...to say everything is rosey here is naive but to comment as some of you have is nothing short of the exact behavior you hate that came unfairly against Bush in circumstances that by any standard had a much greater impact on the country. It's a topic of politics in here don't fool yourselves...no wonder Mr. Issa is so powerful these days

Hehe, I don't have a link but I think (only think) I read something about him working on his bowling after that incident. In any event, there is no doubt the supported all manner of new energy sectors with the stimulus, but they didn't pick winners and losers, they picked everything with solid shot of one day being the new deal...multiple different approaches and fields and a bunch of companies with different approaches within those got backed loans from the energy dept...he picked the game...but the idea the market hasn't picked the winners and losers after the game was set is contradicted by the facts...the 90B was a base that attracted more than double that in private finance and the vast majority of those companies contrary to propaganda have not failed. He put a unprecedented money in research as well...his game was new energy, he campaigned on it, and he did it. And it's that simple. If you don't like investment and incentive for new energy then you don't like a huge part of Obama's agenda...one that was no secret but one that won election either way. But the crony capitalism is nonsense....it really is...get over it and pick a real reason to bash the man there are quite a few.

Will never understand this crony capitalism and laziness knock

Well if we are confined to those examples I would have to take the first given that Obama was hardly the team of destiny, had the early lead, then got close, and the rest is uncertain.... In any event, I think Dewey v. Truman is a good analogy from the conservative view. Obviously it's not the same as Obama is not a huge underdog incumbent from the masses point of view, if anything it's close and he's a slight favorite. However, the parallels are there in the conservative bloc. Gross overconfidence, can't imagine how a campaign promising to repeal a liberal agenda amidst a less than booming economy can fail, and then...a loss.

As somebody who is not religious but comes from a Catholic family (to the extent we have religion, mainly Italian grandma and Irish Boston relatives), I would go so far as to say I am Catholic for the sheer fact I have endured many a Catholic mass.

This could well be a Dewey v. Truman moment for some of you who are so overconfident. Not that I will ever say Mitt has no shot, but you guys are all in with these blogs and conservative confidence.

Romney can win, but it is much likely that he loses. That is just the way of things. He isn't beat, but he would be an upset. Step outside PPP and this is known. WH should be confident. Without some changes he will more than likely be president again.

If my candidate loses it means I now root for and wish success upon Mitt Romney

lol some of these "predictions"

They just "chose not to rescue them" that's the takeaway you get from this story? Basically Obama was sitting there and said..."nah, don't worry about it." That's certainly an interesting takeaway. We probably won't see this the same you are correct.

I read links in here 3rd. What I'm saying is what specifically has you so riled up that is the worst cover-up/scandal in history? It basically comes down to commanders telling the guy to stand down? I mean I agree it's not something people like to hear, lots of stories of that happening in the military including that really high profile Ganjgal battle with that guy that wrote that book... It comes down to the communication about exactly what happened and why th days following? I'm not here to defend anything against any theory (of which there are many)...I'm just wondering what is it that is so scandalous that this is the worst act of cover-up/whatever in history that people in here are calling for impeachment lol...or is it really just something bad happened before the election you and want Obama gone so it's got to be turned from bad to the worst scandal in history? EDIT: And also the other thing I don't get is the implication from some places give that somehow all would have been saved by Mitt? I mean I don't get what it is that Mitt would do, or Obama should have done, in the midst of this cluster that makes this whole thing good...crazies attacked the consulate and now there's post-hoc critics out there just as every loon did w/ Bush talking about conspiracy and should have done this and that...it's just sort of transparent.

What specifically am I thinking about for that question? No hellfire reigned down by a drone or jet?

You guys who have various issues with Benghazi, so be it, I don't know everything and it's fair to question things. You all who think Obama willfully sacrificed people to cover up the attack from happening for political reasons are out of your minds.

You are completely out of your mind. Completely gone. Way worse than any Bush conspirator.

guard Will Conroy said. "You've got a guy like Chase Budinger who can jump out of the gym and then you've got Brandon who's not jumping out of the gym, which is the opposite. Usually you have the black guys jumping out of the gym, but on our team it's switched around." hehe...off to buy my Timberwhites jersey

Honestly I would say Obama ends up taking Virginia in the end.

can we do it w/ beer?

One more quote on tort reform and I'll turn into super-lib again

So it's a clear cut scandal of complete and utter disgrace and it's a job for surrogates?

Oh stop romanticizing the WW2 generation. They were just like us, diverse people.

Bleh this is not working well for me. You iPad folk can't use it and I can't see the maps b/c this site does that "..." to hyperlink everything here messes it up (another site that just posts the entire link takes me to the map...this one just takes me to a map that last was on my computer)

Damn for some reason I can't see your map B-man...it just goes back to whatever the map looked like last time I looked at the site...any IT geniuses have any brilliant ideas?