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It is significantly more expensive to eat healthy. I'm not saying that it can't be done or is an excuse....but it's a factor.

It's business, it's culture, it's people, it's government...it's everything and it's been moving this way for a long time. Etc Etc...we're too fat right now but maybe we'll slim down ... that or go broke.

Edison v. Tesla is a good part of the series but honestly it's more about Rockefeller/Carnegie rivalry and JP Morgan who IMO seems to be the star above the others.

Democrats like American business and history just as much as the next Republican people. Enough of this nonsense seriously. The average democrat hates business as much as the average republican hates minorities or helping the poor....not very much. How this topic has to turn into bashing is nonsense.

it only killed 5 kids Vanderbilt's "favorite" son died in the war btw...crushed him

Watched it a little while ago but pretty sure they settled on AC not DC...then Morgan bought out Westinghouse and fired Edison lol (could be wrong on the exact details here) EDIT: And by "bought out" I mean threatened a law suit he knew he would lose but knew Westinghouse couldn't afford to take on

Agreed. I had basically the same knowledge as you...although I had a bare bones understanding Tesla died poor and was a bad business man and figured Edison won that little battle...which obviously was wrong as the show explained (his ideology having won, him having lost). I did find it hilarious the electric chair was allowed to proceed b/c hanging was perceived to be cruel and apparently after frying that guy they figured this new electric chair idea was something to continue on with. The way people manipulated stock and bought/blocked out competition back then is fascinating though. Good show.

Anyone watch this series? I would recommend it. Nothing groundbreaking and a bit repetitive (they feel the need to recap everything after each commercial break for some unknowable reason)...but all in all pretty good, pretty entertaining, and certainly worth a watch if you know nothing or only something about post-civil war business. Follows a number of story lines but mostly focuses on Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Morgan...tracking their rise as they crush their competition (through business practices now illegal) and the competition between themselves. It ends with the rise of the anti-trust movement and the new wave of business leaders that rise in that era (Ford, etc). Well worth the watch.

Agreed. I don't care who we play we aren't going 7-0 we aren't even going 6-1. We'll win 7 or 8 games max

lol I saw that exact play also and thought "damn!"....McKelvin knocked the hell out of that OLman

Williams was/is our #2 before he got hurt. So I will not calm down. Williams is done. I don't want to see him out there again. McKelvin is a SOLID CB when compared to Williams.

Why does it take Williams getting hurt for us to see the switch. Why can't this team evaluate their own damn talent? Same w/ CJ splitting 50/50 w/ Fred. On and on... McKelvin is better. Period. Get it through your skull Wanny.

Anyone else think so?

80/20 carries. I'm sick of this nonsense. Spiller might be the most dangerous man in the league. This idiocy must end.

uh...we need Levitre brother

The bottom line....how long are we gong to ride Fitz? To actually be good and have a chance to WIN in the playoffs...the answer should be "no longer."

We lost b/c Fitz threw an INT in the area TJ was in with the game on the line while everybody else was playing great. /topic

General "betray-her?"

I would second this. B/c it wasn't just this thread...it was a summer of lunatic posts all 1000 words long about how stupid everybody was and how smart he was. About how he "looked at the data" and he "knows how to do that" and we should pat attention to him b/c it's clear somehow that the GOP angle on the polling is right. So we should pin it. Do it mods.It's not even partisan. Romney supporters on this board didn't go nuts in mass about things like "polls"...OC did. And it was hilarious.

Not the best source of info on any president but PBS has a series available for free called "The Presidents" you can stream about 3-4 hours on him and others.

Obama declared winner of Florida officially today. Silver 51/51

Personally if I could make good money doing manual labor I'd take it...of course one day I would get old.

.....Ms Petraeus.... ...Ms. Journalist...

The electorate is the same old idiot America it's always been. I would caution the GOP against shifting from bashing Obama to now bashing the American electorate.

Debt ceiling debate must be figured out later (per his presser this morning). Can Boehner control his conference? Since Obama won and Dems kept the Senate the only fight left in the house is to try and use that along with some Senate maneuvering to attach rider amendments to "must do bills" such as appropriations and debt ceiling deals which would defund or kill certain potions of the ACA. Thus forcing Obama to sign or not sign things crucial to running the county. Ultimately this showdown would come down to who the public blamed and what they understood. So my question. Are we done with this battle? Or will it continue?