Just Joshin'

I like the Pats pick title.

If you think Rosen is a bust, move on. If you think Murray will be a superstar, draft him. If you think Rosen and Murray are equal, build around Rosen. If you think Kliff can't work with Rosen, you hired the wrong coach.

You may need to settle for Martins BBQ or Arnolds meat and three.

Reminds me of the old threads to not draft Orakpo because he was from Texas and so was lazy Williams.

This is my issue with Gary - lack of production.

A bit late for April fools.

Not the choices I was hoping for but this could happen if QBs are not popular. Between Wilkens and Hockenson. Went with the D as he was the higher rated in my mind but can not argue against TJ.

Yes, Bills need 2 QBs picked in top 8 to ensure a top quality player drops.

It is possible to change it.........

Options considered: QB: Winston may not be the long-term solution but will give him a year under Arians. DL: Williams is also good value but the Bucs still have McCoy. LB: Need to replace Alexander with a true playmaker. So, with those thoughts I see Williams slightly ahead of White but not enough to avoid the need pick. With the 5th overall pick, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Devin White, LB LSU. The Giants @BuffaloHokie13 are on the clock.

This is the right pick for them - both value and need.

Seems like time to move on.

The production and draft positions for that line do not match. Some wasted picks for sure.

That would be my thought but you could argue Q. Williams. Seems like can't go wrong either way.

Thanks. I agree that Kingsbury will be replaced in a few years. He was not overly successful in college so I expect less in the pros.

So is the pick you think they will make or the pick you would make as GM? Why Murray for #1?

......and if there are no shows then those spots should open up for the next draft. If the same folks are kept the spots should be adjusted an arbitrary number (+/- 5 ?) to mix it up. Same people in same spots will most likely yield the same results. Thanks to @Virgil for coordinating this draft.

I see BPA as a philosophy, not a hard and fast rule. Players are usually grouped in tiers. Within the tiers you try to select for need. There is not a BPA list from 1 to 200 and a team just picks the next name. Now in your scenario the player on the board was in tier 1 at a position of strength and all others were lower tiers, taken the BPA. The exception to that might be QB. So this discussion is all about definition of BPA.

So you keep Rosen and build around him? I would be in that camp not because I am a Rosen fan but I worry Murray can not take a pounding.

In the signup Max said he was selecting Kyler if you want to proceed......

Nice post, spot on

Why can't Buffalo have a premium player? If there is a difference maker, take him. You are not getting enough in those trades - ditch the chart.

If White was the pick I would not be upset as he is very good. He will not make it to 9 as Bucs or Lions would take him. If he was the pick, why would you change the entire D? I would like to understand from you versus just throwing out a question. The best path is to make him an OLB. This means you do not have to change your playbook and turnover other players who do not fit a 4-3. Again, why do you think this is a good idea?

I am with the majority here: White. BPA of that list.

The guy may not agree but it is clear Beane has a plan. Maybe there is confusion with the Ravens or Jets - they appear to have no overall strategy.