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This makes absolute sense. But as much as we need another good receiver, we need OL help even more. It would be great to successfully address both needs but resources are limited.

Football didn't become football until Walter Camp.

What accountability do you want? Beane's made the roster better overall. But he has failed to build a good OL. A lot of people - McD, Dorsey, Josh, Motor - would perform much better if Beane had acquired better offensive linemen. So what do you do? Do you fire Beane? Do you write him up? No. You identify the shortcoming and drive on. Absolutely, this roster, coaching staff and front office all need to get better. Firing a bunch of people isn't the best answer unless you have better people waiting to join the team.

"Without punishment for mistakes, there can be no accountability." That was probably the leadership model of ancient Rome's Ninth Legion. There are more modern leadership models available.

Every good team - save one - ends the season in failure. Every defense collapses at some point - both D's collapsed yesterday in the Super Bowl. Maybe both teams should fire their coaches.

My first thought post SB.... We need Philly's OL and KC's offensive coaching staff.

It's not like shooting free throws. It's a team sport. If the receivers aren't getting open and the OL isn't protecting, the QB is gonna have issues.

732 earthquakes in the past year - mostly little ones - where I live. The biggest one - 5.1 - made me wonder if a truck just crashed into the house. Then I remembered I live in CA.

Wow! I can’t believe the emphatic negativity about a guy nobody knows much about. He may end up being a good addition to the staff. None of us is in a position to know otherwise.

Glass half full? During the drought, I just wanted a simple playoff appearance. Beans and McD have gifted us playoff wins. The average NFL team has a 1 in 32 chance of winning the Super Bowl. Our odds are better than that. So, while I admittedly get frustrated sometimes, overall I'm grateful.

You may be right. But he's 32 (a year younger than Beas) and his yardage production has declined the three past consecutive years. And I wonder how much he'd want?

Interior OL (2x), OT, WR, CB, Safety (if Poyer leaves), RB (if Motor leaves), LB (if Edmunds leaves), DE. There are too many holes to fill. Sadly, when I look into the Swami's crystal ball, I don't see a SB run this upcoming season. Still, I'm hoping Beane finds some forgotten treasures in the bargain bin. He'll stay quiet at the beginning of free agency when the market is hot. Then see who's still available when the market cools and there are good values to be found.

Okay, I'm cheating... From the latter part of the 2021 season until halftime of the 2022 Packer game. For a while there, I was starting to think Josh just might be the best QB in football.

I agree that we need Beane to be good this year. But, realistically, every GM misses on some draft picks.

We're on a budget: Crowder, Shakir, Beasley

It's hard to disagree with Joe. I'm surprised he's reporting that the Bills still believe in Spencer Brown. I'm not sure how. Dorsey is an interesting case. After early dominance, the offense faltered down the stretch until it finally laid an egg against Cinci. Dorsey definitely doesn't have the creativity of an Andy Reid or Sean Payton. But who's available that's better? Do you gamble Dorsey will improve? Or gamble with a guy from another organization? But, yeah, I'm not sure how long Josh will be an elite QB and you don't want to waste any of that time with a non-SB quality OC.

I'm a little discouraged about next year but not because of Frazier. I worry Beane doesn't have the resources to fix all our issues.

This is rather depressing. We don't have the money to fix the OL in free agency. So I'm hoping we somehow fix it in the draft. I guess a guard in the 2nd round helps.

I'm not thrilled with that backfield and hope we can do better. But the Bills are low on off-season resources. They can't fix everything.

I'm not a huge Motor fan but you do make a good point. If I had a choice to upgrade the RB position or OL, I'd choose the OL. Motor is serviceable and he'd been even better behind a line that could actually open up holes. And Josh needs a bodyguard.

He does well in YPC because he doesn't get a lot of carries and the Bills are a passing team. Singletary is rarely, if ever, the reason we win. Opponents focus on Josh and the receivers. Many years ago, I remember teams keeping a spy on OJ. Now they keep a spy on Josh.

That's what they said about Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, and Tony Dungy... until they did. Give it time.

This is a depressing thread. We haven't had a good OL since Josh has been here. And it doesn't seem likely we'll have one in 2023. Just not enough resources.

The Bills were built for the passing game. On D, our biggest contracts are for a pass rusher and a pass defender. On O, our biggest contracts are for a passer and a pass catcher. The problem is, Miller notwithstanding, Beane has been focused on the skill positions and has not succeeded in the trenches. All our offensive linemen are rated in the bottom half of the league. Our defensive linemen, without Miller in the lineup to draw attention and elevate their game, are meh. I don't view the front office is cocky. I just think they're wrong too often. I heard Rom Wolf once say that every draft should produce one All-Pro. It might be in the 1st round, it might be in the 3rd - drafting is an inexact science - but you need one. Drafting starters isn't good enough. Every team has 22 starters. What a championship team needs is difference-makers. Better yet, difference-makers on rookie contracts. So, I agree, we need Beane to build through the draft - and that means picking more playmakers instead of JAGs.

None of us had 9 turnovers. We don't need the painful reminders.