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I agree but will add some other thoughts. If he's in the middle of the pack or better of the QB ratings (efficiency, QBR), that would be a good start for a rookie. If he leads the team to a 8-8 or better record, that would be a good start for a rookie. If he throws more TDs than INTs, that would be great too. Let's remember that Jim Kelly didn't have a great rookie season with the Bills, despite some post-collegiate seasoning in the USFL. Then again, with Spiller and Jackson in the backfield, EJ doesn't need to be team's saviour.

Yep, I agree. None of the talking heads are perfect. No GM is perfect. Talent evaluation can be tricky business. But Kirwan clearly knows football better than most of the guys who make a living commenting on it.

Another kick-the-tires signing.

Hackett says that the five best need to be on the field at the same time. Makes sense. On the other hand, there aren't a lot of successful offensive schemes that utilize two HBs. I know a lot of people are enamored with CJ - and rightly so - but a couple years ago Freddy was a beast. I believe he was leading the league in Yards After Contact. He was practically a one man offense for a while. If he returns to form, he needs some touches. Marrone and Hackett seem like creative guys. Let's see if they are creative enough to find a way to get both these guys on the field.

Obviously, Freddy will spell CJ when he's tired. But that's it? I hope to see Freddy and CJ in the same huddle with some mystery as to where they'll line up when they come out. Done intelligently, this could stress defenses and meet Hackett's criterion that the best five should be on the field. One play might feature a two-back set. The next play, Freddy lines up the slot. The next play, CJ goes out wide.... Maybe when CJ and Freddy on the field together, CJ is always the tailback while Freddy is the wildcard. When your best two offensive players are both RBs, I think you need to be a little creative on how you use them. And I think Hackett will.

Hackett has said more than once that he wants the five best skill positions on the field. I can't imagine he doesn't count both CJ and FredEx amongst the top five. Marrone says: “I think we’ve got two good running backs that are established in this league that have done well. I think it’d be too soon to say exactly what (Jackson’s) role is. You see them in a lot of different situations. I think we have a lot of things we can do with them.” http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20130801/SPORTS03/308010052/Buffalo-two-bills-drive-Bills-break-new-role-Fred-Jackson Pat Kirwan says: "The Bills are going to be a very dangerous "20" personnel team (two running backs. three wide receivers). Expect to see a lot of Fred Jackson and C.J. Spiller on the field together with Stevie Johnson, Robert Woods and probably T.J. Graham. Spiller can split out to wide receiver, Jackson is a willing blocker if they want to run power and there's lots of speed on the outside." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pat-kirwan/22951661/bills-observations-in-qb-battle-prepared-rookie-manuel-looks-to-get-nod If Freddy returns to his 2011 form, he needs to be on the field. But where? Fortunately, as we all know, he's versatile. He's not a crushing lead blocker but he's excellent at blitz pick-up. He's a talented, determined runner and a solid pass-catcher. And he's also a humble, team-player who's willing to do anything asked of him. I'm wondering how creative Marrone & Hackett might be in getting him on the field with C.J. Any guesses?

Marrone seems like a straight-shooter. Pat Kirwan, who's known Marrone since Marrone was in high school, says Marrone is a straight shooter. If Marrone says there's a true competition for QB, I believe him. Marrone likes his job but he doesn't get to keep it unless he wins. So why wouldn't he start - as he says - the QB who gives him the best chance of winning? Just because it's a fair competition, it doesn't mean he'll treat each QB the same. Kolb and EJ have different developmental needs and are in different places in their evolution as QBs.

There's really no persuasive argument offered in the article to make us think Rogers will shine this year - though I hope you're right. What makes Rogers such a great NFL prospect? Superior body control? Hand-eye coordination? Route running? Speed? Elusiveness? Strength? Somebody or another compared Rogers to Randy Moss and I hope that - on the field - the comparison proves justified. As of right now, I'm not expecting him to crack the starting lineup.

Am I the only one who doesn't care about uniforms and collars? The Bills could dress in Santa Claus suits if they wanted. As long as they win, I'm happy. When they lose, I don't care how good they look doing it. I'm still despondent.

This is already being discussed in the guard thread.

I don't think Marrone is a Sean Payton clone. Look at how Syracuse's offense evolved during Marrone's tenure. Hackett talks about studying the K-Gun, Chip Kelly's offense, etc. Our Hackett is, of course, the son of Paul Hackett - a West Coast guy. These two coaches (Marrone & Hackett) have a lot of influences beyond Sean Payton. And, by the way, throwing on 3rd-and-one when Fitz is your QB isn't a bright decision. It's a much better idea when Bart Starr is your quarterback. It only softens up defenses when the threat is legit.

Well, I hope you are right. If Marrone, Pettine and EJ are all as good as we hope, the Bills will be exciting this year.

A couple thoughts... PFF is bunch of number-crunching, sabremetrician, analytics geeks - and I mean that nicely. Their forte is examining numbers, not real players in live action. I'm not sure why they do camp visits other than it must be fun for them. I notice that they don't show Fred Jackson in the starting line-up and I wonder about that. Hackett has said on more than one occasion that he's going to put his five best skill players on the field. That would include Jackson. Contrast PFF's proposed starting line-up to this comment from Pat Kirwan: "The Bills are going to be a very dangerous "20" personnel team (two running backs. three wide receivers). Expect to see a lot of Fred Jackson and C.J. Spiller on the field together with Stevie Johnson, Robert Woods and probably T.J. Graham. Spiller can split out to wide receiver, Jackson is a willing blocker if they want to run power and there's lots of speed on the outside."

Here's what Pat Kirwan had to say about the guard position: On offense the Bills must find a left guard to replace Andy Levitre. Colin Brown is getting the first shot and Doug Legursky is threatening to take the job, but I get the feeling Antoine Caldwell could be the man in the end. Caldwell had 19 starts for the Texans, never has been called for holding and has yielded only five sacks. I think, btw, that you can find a starting guard under your couch or any other piece of household furniture is just a little bit silly. Ideally, we'll have studs all across the line. Guys who excel at guard (or any NFL position) are hard to find.

You may be right but look through the lens of an outsider. We have a new head coach. A new OC and offensive scheme. A new DC and defensive scheme. A new QB, probably a rookie, and several new starters. How often does all that up to a playoff contender? Conventional wisdom says this is a two year (or more) rebuilding project.

Is it my imagination, or are the Bills signing more small-name, kick-the-tires FAs this year than they have in the past?

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Like some others, I think it's a combination. Jauron had Perry Fewell as his DC and Bobby April for ST. The defense and special teams did not have bad coaching. They just didn't have enough good players. The offense, however, lacked both a good QB and good OC. "Psycho" Greggo might have been a wacko but he'd still be a DC somewhere, if not a head coach, if not for the Saints scandal. Wanny, on the other hand, deserves to be out of the NFL, not due to rules violations but because of basic ineptitude. But with Chan as the de facto OC, the offense wasn't terrible despite Fitz for a QB. With both coaches and players, we've been hit or miss. And judging by our won-less record, it's been more miss. Hopefully Whaley-Marrone turns out to be a winning combination.

Welcome! And thank your parents for raising you right. My own daughter, who's about your age, was raised in Northern California and became a Raiders fan much to my chagrin. Well, at least she's not a Fins, Jets or Pats fan. Your fanship has lasted through some pretty lean times. Hopefully, you'll soon get the experience the joy of rooting for the Bills in a playoff game.

So the sack leaders put up a lot of sacks in just a couple games while other defenders don't pile up sacks in any game? Hmmm. Which is better? I still prefer the sack leaders. You might also notice some other things: 1. Sack leaders often lead in QB pressures as well. 2. Sack leaders often get a lot of offensive attention, including double teams. Coaches do read stat sheets. I'm sure you could devise a more comprehensive statistic to measure the effectiveness of DEs but sack totals are simple and a fair indicator.

Especially if they also administered a sobriety test.

Thanks for the recommendation. I've tried a number of non-surgical modalities over the years including chiropractic, massage, cortisone injections, PT, yoga, meditation, electric stimulation and various programs from books similar to Sarno's (though never Sarno's spefically). For me, nothing worked. The disc between my L4 and L5 vertebrae was basically gone and my L5 was way out of alignment so I finally went with the surgical option: Transformal Lumbar Interbody Fusion (I think Troup had the same). Now I'm running 12 miles per week with no back pain and will push that up to 50 as I get in back in shape. So I'm happy with the operation and hope Troup is too.

It's a stupid message for the GM to send to the team, "The Head Coach is not in charge."

I only learned of it recently and was surprised he went from a national media gig (NFL.com) to a local job that is more PR than true journalism.

I had the same surgery as Troup - or a very similar one. My surgeon didn't let me run (or do much of anything) for 7 months. So I turned to my next favorite hobby - eating - and become a fat couch potato. Disc fusion surgery usually entails a pretty lengthy recovery. With better coaching and a healthy back - we'll finally see what Troup can do this year.