Bronc24

Yes. He is. He is more accurate, especially beyond 15 yards and he actually completes a pass to guys in Bills uniforms rather the opposition with the game on the line.

Yeah, but you have terrible hands in clutch situations.

Just stop. The only "Manuel" quality I wish Orton had was the ability to run. Period. Look, I bought an EJ jersey and I wanted the kid to excel. But the simple truth is he is not a winning QB right now. All you need to do is look at the body language of the team. They believe, as bad as things look, that Orton can somehow get it done. EJ does not command that presence. Rather quite the opposite. He had lost the offense. I admire the move to sign Orton and having the balls to play him. It is the correct move.

EJ didn't, therefore we lost. That's a horrendous argument.

I didn't know the 5 yard line up rule on kick offs existed until today. Of course, it was the Bills who made me aware. Good post, Bill. I don't often agree with everything you say, but today you're spot on.

+1 Thank you.

Apologize for what?

Terrible decision to squib.

That was a GREAT play by Spikes.

No static on the Canadian feed.

Fire Marrone. He needs to teach these guys how to hang on to the ball better.

No way this kid is ever humbled by anything. He's a POS with a sense of entitlement. That won't change.

Just stop.

...and I swear the colour guy has dreamed of sleeping with Brady on a number of occasions. I get homerism, but this was embarrassing to listen to. I never thought I could hate the *Pats more, then today came.

Nice!

No matter. The kid can't play, no matter who he is.

That's the weakest trash talking I have ever read.

I love that highlight tape. The second play shows him "busting through" the line because they didn't bother to account for his pathetic ass in the scheme. He's three yards in the backfield when the ball's 5 yards downfield.

I'm not sure how you didn't get hired as HC. Did you submit your resume?

A bottle of Jack came soon after, no doubt.

+1

Started a thread saying the same thing. With EJ...we take the knee and hope for the coin flip.

Body language. All day. I didn't see a receiver get frustrated like they did repeatedly with EJ. If you don't think that's a huge difference, you'd best stick to farming.

We just looked different....different in a way that though Orton wasn't perfect, he delivered when he needed to. There was a confidence in the 4th quarter I have not seen or felt in a long time.

I thought he called a great play today....same with the 2 pt conversion.