billsfan1959

My take, FWIW: There is no "original" FD-302 other than the one turned over. Peter Strzok interviewed Flynn on 24 Jan 2017. According to Comey's testimony, Strzok documented the interview in a draft FD-302 on the very same day. On 17 Dec 2018, the government turned over two redacted versions of the FD-302. One was dated 15 Feb 2017 and the other was dated 31 May 2017. The government certified that both redacted versions were identical, with the exception that the first version, which was digitally signed and certified in February 2017, inadvertently contained a header labeled “DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVE MATERIAL.” Once that error was recognized, the header was removed and a corrected version, omitting only the header, was re- signed and re-certified in May 2017. Whatever iterations the FD-302 went through between 24 Jan 17 and 15 Feb 2017 only existed on Strzok's computer, if they were saved at all. My guess is that Strzok just kept editing the same FD-302 until it contained what he needed and became "official" on or after 15 Feb 2017. The fact that it was still labled as a "Draft" on 15 Feb 17 tells me it was not uploaded into the FBI's Sentinel system (which is a bureau wide database of individual case file information) until after that date. So, this version of the FD-302 is the "original" version. Now, the FBI policy on FD-302's is that they are to be completed (not just a draft) within 5 days. There is a reason for that. The FBI does not record interviews, so the FD-302 is a summary of the interview based on Agent notes and recollections. The longer an Agent waits to complete an FD-302, the greater the chances of inaccuracies, omissions, changes to reflect information outside the interview or biases, etc. The fact that the FD-302 was not completed within 5 days and still in a "draft" status on 15 Feb 2017 tells you that Strzok was continuing to edit it. This version should be suspect just on the above information alone. Add into the equation that the original investigation of Flynn, “Crossfire Razor” came under the umbrella of “Crossfire Hurricane” and was based on the underlying justifications for that investigation. A memorandum, closing Crossfire Razor was placed in the file on 4 Jan 2017 based on no information developed to indicate Flynn had done anything wrong. However, Strzok told the case Agent to keep the case technically open - even though the case Agent had determined there was no basis to continue the investigation. Texts between Strzok and Page confirm they kept the case open when it should have been closed. This is important because everything that subsequently occurred with Flyn was done under the authorization of this investigation. Strzok would have had to obtain new authorization to open a new intelligence investigation or a new criminal investigation. He didn't have the basis for either, so he kept the Crossfire Razor intel case open - even though there was no basis to do so. I won't go into everything else Strzok did to create serious questions as to his credibility (he has none and should be criminally prosecuted for what he did). However, eventually, the guilty plea Flynn entered was for "false statements" based entirely off Strzok's summary of the interview in that FD-302 (that he kept editing for over three weeks), and the "false statements" Flynn allegedly told were (1) material to an investigation of which there was no basis for being open and (2) reasonably likely to influence the course of an investigation that shouldn't have even existed (not to mention the FBI had the actual transcripts of Flynn's calls with the Russian Ambassador - so any version Flynn told wasn't going to influence anything they did). This entire thing was a f*****g joke. Edit: Joe Pientka and Peter Strzok interviewed Flynn. Actually Pientka was the one who did the first draft. Strzok and Page then "edited" the draft from 10 Feb 2017 - 15 Feb 2017.

Haha. Not really. I actually do have a pretty good idea. And this much I do know: FD 302s do not just come up "missing."

Agree 100%. I try to be intellectually consistent in my views. For me, impeachment is a last resort and should never be used to remove a sitting President merely for political reasons. I did not like Bill Clinton, as a person, for many of the same reasons I didn't like Trump, and so many other powerful men, including Biden: because he used his power to prey on women. However, I am able to separate my personal dislike from issues of job performance and I never supported the Republican zeal to impeach Clinton because I felt it was politically motivated.

Your hatred for Trump is evident. I don't understand it, but, like so many people I know, it is clearly a driving force for you. From a policy perspective, you are right, Biden is not Trump; however, I was hoping for a little insight into what Biden policies would lead you to vote for him. From a personal perspective, on the other other hand, I believe you are kidding yourself if you think Biden is any different / better than Trump.

By policy, the interview of Flynn had to be documented in an FD 302 and, clearly, from Comey's testimony, one was created. It is normal for changes to be made to an FD 302 during the draft process. However, once an FD 302 is finalized and placed in the file, by policy, it cannot be edited for any reason. If there is anything in the FD-302 that needs to be clarified or corrected in any way, it is done through a memorandum or a separate FD 302. In addition, all notes taken during the interview process are placed in the file as well. Because the FBI does not record interviews, the notes are what the FD 302 is created from and are critically important if any discrepancies are alleged between what what said in an interview and what is in the FD 302. The FD 302 is actually stored electronically in a case file database and can be accessed Bureau wide. If it was not uploaded, then it was a violation of policy and a complete deviation from the norm. If it is missing, then it would have had to have been manually deleted from the system. If it exists, then I cannot, for the life of me, figure out any reason why a copy of the FD-302 (along with the interview notes) regarding the interview of Gen Flynn were not turned over to the defense.

Good post. Interestingly enough, if you pay attention to the details in the posts of a number of people on this board accused of being blind followers / supporters of Trump or of being far right politically, you will find most of us are neither - and many of us didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Serious question: What is it about Joe Biden that makes you want to vote for him, as a person and from a policy perspective?

Don't deflect, deal with your issues. Just as an aside: Biden Derangement Syndrome? Really? Very weak, unoriginal, and, even if you set aside how lame it is, it is not even applicable in the instances you use it. Do better.

You are screaming for leaders to hold national Klan rallies and you are calling other people dumb. Good Lord...

So, let me get this straight. You think to lead by example is for leaders to hold Klan rallies? You really should see a therapist.

You make even less sense than your other personas. Say goodnight, Gracie...

The only posters on this board fixated on the Klan are you Tiibs, Warren, and a couple others. It seems a little disturbing and I'm just curious as to why? Is there something you would like to get off your chest and share with everyone? We're genuinely concerned and here to support you if you would like to achieve sound mental health. Just think of us as another one of your support groups.

Awwwe, did I hurt your feelings?

Now you are just being emotional. And why are you so fixated on wanting to see klan rallies?

Why would you want anybody to hold Klan rallies? Very disturbing, Tibs...

Wait, I thought you said trump was an idiot? Now you say he isn't? I think you just had what the other members of your AA group might refer to as "a moment of clarity." Well done you...

Yes

It's disturbing that you would be interested in that. This is not really the place to express your paraphilias... I liked you better when you just expressed political views: They were nonsensical, but at least they weren't creepy.

Tell us all again how Russia got Trump his first term. We love that story and it sounds almost real the way you tell it....

He said that he found wearing flesh-colored yoga pants to the store scared more people than the coronavirus, he has the gift of being able to paint songs, and that the best opportunities in his life passed him by while he was trying to decide between a cone or a cup. Or, at least I think that is what he said. You know how hard it is to make sense of his posts....

I didn't see anything that I would interpret as him being "backed into a corner." He wasn't asked over and over again until he finally crumbled under the bright interrogation lights. He was presented with some evidence, asked a question, and admitted he was wrong. I wish more politicians would do the same. BTW, I have no idea why you are posting this specifically in response to one of my posts. You removed the content of my post and insinuated, through your response, that I had written something about Mitch McConnell or a pandemic plan by the Obama administration. I didn't. Which pretty much makes you more disingenuous than Mitch McConnell.

FIFY

Way to grasp the obvious, Tibs. Now, please tell us how the identification of new cases, with no other information or context, indicates an increase in the rate of new positive cases, hospitalizations, and deaths.

You do understand that, as testing increases, the number of new cases increases, right? What matters is the rate of new positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths - none of which were addressed in the article. But, hey, why let facts get in the way of your fear mongering....

More testing, more new cases. The article said nothing about the rate of new cases, hospitalizations related to reopening, deaths related to reopening. Also, let's overlook the fact that they rank 38th among states in cases per 1 million and 39th in deaths per 1 million. But, yeah, hotspot....

There is a fifth dimension of ridiculousness beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between shadow and complete darkness, between lack of knowledge and willful ignorance, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his ability to completely distort reality. This is the dimension of complete lunacy. It is an area which we call the daz28 Zone.