billsfan1959

Haha! The trials and tribulations of being a Bills fan

Haha! I just posted in another thread that the first game I ever attended was the Oakland Raider game in 1968...

Actually, he did. Nobody, including Belichick, had any idea Brady would be any good at all. It was fortuitous - not genius

My first game was 1968 vs the Oakland Raiders...a 48-6 loss. The only explanation I can give for not running as fast as I could away from this team then, is that I was only 9. I remember my father trying to console me that year by saying the Bills might draft OJ Simpson the following year. Of course, he turned out to be a murderer. OJ Simpson, not my father.

Amen, brother. I never understood the fixation.

So, the vast majority of fans are unable to look at events with any nuance, are blissfully ignorant, are unable to hold reasonable conversations based on logic and evidence, are only interested in this forum being an "echo chamber" in which to have their biases confirmed, merely react to everything in a knee-jerk manner without any reason or fairness, follow the team blindly without any ability to see reality, and, generally, know very little about football - mostly because they do not share your opinions on various topics, primarily Allen and Mahomes? Did I miss anything?

OK, try to follow: (1) The thread is about Matt Milano and the AFC defense of player of the week award (2) any discussion about Matt Milano or the AFC defensive player of the week award (i.e.; he deserved it, he didn’t deserve it, someone else might have deserved it) is well within the thread topic. BTW, Milano could have deserved it and another player could have deserved it. The two ideas are not mutually exclusive - it is an award based on subjective criteria. If you are getting this upset over somebody in the thread suggesting Hughes would have been a better choice, then, maybe, you should take a break from this forum for the sake of your mental health.

You might be right if the thread title was something like, "Matt Milano named AFC Defensive Player of the week and you are not allowed to post any opinion on the topic other than you whole heartedly agree with the award and would fight to the death against any notion he was not, hands down, the best defensive player in the NFL" Otherwise, your assertion is beyond ridiculous

Is that not allowed? I was under the impression that (a) this was a discussion board, (b) this is a thread about the defensive player of the week, (c) which defensive player had the greatest impact is a legitimate discussion, and, therefore, (d) it would be appropriate for people to engage in that discussion in this thread. Silly me.

Are you Milano's dad? Nobody is saying he didn't deserve it. People are just saying that the award could have gone to one of several Bills' players. I didn't know that the only reply allowed in this thread is, "Congratulations Matt." Congratulations Matt!

It is just impressive that there is actually a discussion on which Bills player should have won the award - and you could make a case for 3-4 players...

Maybe if the Bills paid for an operation to remove those Tyrannosaurus Rex arms he displayed on that deep ball along the sideline on Sunday, and replaced them with human arms... ….any human arms at all, from infant to old age. Couldn't be worse...

The QB is 22, the MLB (QB of the defense) is 20, 14 players who are starters or play significant roles are 24 or under, and another five starters/significant role players are 25-26...

The failure of that play was all on Murphy

He only attempted 4 passes in the second half and completed all four - including one down the middle for 17 yards. Not sure what the Minnesota "adjustments" accomplished....

Welcome! I hope you are posting about great Allen performances for many years to come. Cheers!

Brett Favre threw it hard, as did John Elway.

27-17 Vikings

I guess I don't see Allen as unrefined as you do, and I do not believe there was a universal and unequivocal agreement among all credible analysts - and certainly that is not what the Bills thought (or they wouldn't have traded all those picks, selected him 7th, and not bother to even find/keep a veteran on the roster). It doesn't matter anyway, as I said, what happened with any other QB is of no consequence regarding how Allen turns out. However, if you need some sort of reference point, then I would say Brett Favre comes to mind. There are numerous QBs who started on bad teams that became very good to HOF caliber QBs. However, I will choose Favre because he was looked at in much the same way as Allen. But, again, Allen is his own person. He will be successful if he possesses the physical and mental attributes necessary - and if he does not possess them, then he won't.

There is a very wide range of opinions about how extensive these issues are. Regardless, whatever happened to any other QB in history is irrelevant. Each athlete is unique, as is each situation that athlete is in at any given moment. IMHO, if he has the qualities (physical and mental) necessary to succeed in the NFL, then he will.

Of course any player, particularly a QB, going to a team with better overall talent is going to have a better chance at achieving some level of success than going to a team with lesser overall talent. However, there is no empirical evidence to say any given player that failed on a bad team did so because he was on a bad team. IMO, it is a specious argument.

The league Is littered with failures at every position. You have no way on earth of knowing whether any of these failed quarterbacks would have been successful on good teams. It is your opinion and nothing more.

I absolutely agree with you. My points were (1) Beane most definitely has a plan and (2) we have no idea at this point how it will turn out.

This board is ridiculous right now.

He certainly is learning on the job, as anyone else in their first year on the job. It doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't know what he is doing. He has had one draft. It is impossible to know, two games into their rookie seasons, if the individuals he drafted are "football players" or not.