billsfan1959

Roman is an excellent coordinator and is a big part of getting the most out of Jackson’s talents.

For whatever reason, it is not a strength of his right now and he doesn't need it to win. His strength is the LOS - 20 yards downfield. He is one of the highest rated passers in the NFL in that range and that is where most successful QBs live. It would be nice to hit a deep ball now and then; however, he doesn't need it to win ball games. Why people are so fixated on it is beyond me. Because he has a strong arm, it doesn't mean he is going to be a deep ball thrower. That strong arm can, and does, come into play in so many different ways other than the deep ball.

I think you must have a reading comprehension problem. I did not say Rudolph did not do anything wrong. I said he did not do anything to warrant Garrett swinging a helmet violently at his head, which was unprotected. It really shouldn't be this difficult for you to distinguish between those two concepts. BTW, they are not trained to be violent. They play a game that can be physically violent. When a player crosses the line and intentionally tries to injure another player, you don't make excuses for him. You hold him accountable for his own actions. Period.

I didn't say Rudolph didn't do anything, serious or otherwise. What I said was this: It did not cause or warrant what Garrett did with the helmet. Garrett, and Garrett alone, decided to swing a helmet at another man's bare head. When you lose your temper to the point you purposefully engage in an act that could potentially have serious physical (to include lethal) consequences, that is on YOU.

To insinuate in any way that Mason Rudolph did anything to cause or warrant being struck in the head with a blunt object, an act of pure aggression with potentially lethal consequences, is pure foolishness.

Nothing says "I love you and I am looking forward to the birth of our son/daughter" like a good beating...

I have never advocated that Allen throw the ball 20 times per game and the run game have 40 rushes per game. Ever. I would love to see Allen throw the ball 35-40 times per game. He is absolutely expected to be able to read defenses and he does a pretty decent job for being in his second year. That doesn't mean he is great at it yet, or that he shouldn't have help in the the design and call of plays. He struggled against the Pats because Daboll insisted on attacking the strength of the NE defense (their secondary) with Allen's and the the team's weaknesses (the long ball, and standing in the pocket/pass protection for longer developing plays). There were some plays to be made in that game (as there are in every game); however, there was far more potential for problems. Add in the fact that Belichick is pretty good at putting together defense that confuse young QBs. For every "play there was to be made" in that game, I will show you three where Allen was running for his life behind a line being asked to block long enough for receivers, who struggled with getting separation, to get open against one of the better secondaries in the NFL. The gameplan wasn't even close to being the same in the Miami game on Sunday. For the most part, they were quicker hitting pass plays that were in Allen's wheelhouse this year: from the LOS to 20 yards downfield. Even the 40 yard TD pass to Brown was a 22 yd completion. When they went to that same strategy in the second half (for awhile at least) of the New England game, Allen was much better. Allen does better throwing on early downs with a quicker tempo and plays that devlop more quickly in that LOS - 20yd range. Allen does not do well with the deep ball, longer developing plays, or "run, run pass on 3rd and long." When they stick to what he does best, they generally do well. When they move away from it, they generally don't.

This really has been my primary issue with Daboll - his consistency in playing to his team's strengths (particularly Allen) / opponents' weaknesses.

Fair enough. I would agree that, at this point, he is not quite where Russell was, but not far off either. For me, as it is for you, I'm sure, is that he is continuing to get better. As an aside, and it is just my opinion, I believe his overall game would be better if Daboll was more consistent in implementing plays designed to maximize and take full advantage of the areas in which Allen has really progressed (and are his strengths) this year. I, feel at times, he has forced Allen into a role where he was playing to his weaknesses rather than his strengths (i.e.; the New England game and, to some extent, the Cleveland game and a couple others).

You are right about one thing: Your analysis is simple....

Always respect your opinion Gunner; however, I would say Allen is much closer to what Wilson was in his first two years than not. Allen is on pace this year to finish with 3480 yds, 21 TDs, 11 INTs, and 11 Rushing TDs Wilson in his second year finished with 3357 yds, 26 TDs, 09 INTs, and 01 Rushing TDs It is truly hard to compare Allen's first year with Wilson's first year. Allen started only 11 games to Wilson's 16. Allen was asked to carry a team with no running game and arguably bottom 3 talent at WR and OL. Wilson was asked to manage a team with the number one rushing game and a defense that was not only #1 in the league, but also great at forcing turnovers and creating good field position for the offense. As far as the rushing TDs go, I think it is a bit unfair to equate that to Josh having an inability to process the field quicker in the redzone. I would agree with you that was the case last year, but not so much at this point. I think it is more a product of a lack of real ability by receivers to get open in the redzone, trust in them to make contested catches, and confidence in his ability to make plays with his feet inside the 10 yard line. Wilson also had, perhaps, the best power rushing game inside the 10 yard line in the league, which, IMO, opened things up for his receivers a bit more. While he may not have the same number of passing TDs over his first two years as Wilson, I would say, given everything else, he is closer right now to what Wilson was in his second year than you think.

Nope

He also threw the ball 50 times for those 325 yards.....

A travesty? Seriously? I do not think that word means what you think it means...

There is success in what you do for a career and there is success in who you are as a person. I love what I see in Allen on the personal side: His genuineness, maturity, connection with family and community, humbleness, passion, and just the way he conducts / carries himself. I certainly hope he becomes the franchise QB for this team. However, from the perspective of someone going into the "post career" years of life and as a father with children all leading their own lives as adults now, I hope he stays grounded on his personal path and continues to grow in all those ways that will mean more in life than how he played a game.

They've had some chances for the deep ball that he did not connect on. Most were his fault, some were not. Having a consistently good running game and a back that is a big play threat every time he gets the ball creates different opportunities than just dropping back and trying to hit the deep ball. A good play action game can open up a passing game and give Allen opportunities for big plays downfield that do not necessarily mean throwing it 50 yards.

There, you forgot a couple things

He already has a natural pocket awareness that you cannot teach. He needs to learn when to trust the line when they are actually giving him the extra time he needs. I think he will continue to improve in this area.

There shouldn't even be a need for a poll. If you can't see he is improving, then you don't want to see it. To answer the second question: Yes, I think he will continue to get better. Whether or not he becomes a franchise caliber QB remains to be seen. I don't think we will be able to start reaching any real definitive conclusions until next year.

I am not a fan of snide comments on either side. And, you are right, when the discussion in this thread becomes soley about religion, rather than an intellectual discussion about what role it may or may not play with individuals in the NFL, particularly with the Bills, then it should be in the PPP.

I don't begrudge you your opinion. Each person has a right to adhere to whatever religious belief they choose and are entiltled to display it in whatever manner they choose. It is an integral part of many athletes and coaches in the NFL. So, it is aas much in the NFL as in any other aspect of life. Whether you think it should be or shouldn't be. I also think that when you go out of your way to denigrate people who have a strong religious faith, you are as small minded as what you believe those people to be.

There are countless athletes in the NFL who feel their faith was a big part of helping them overcome obstacles in their lives to reach the NFL - as well as continuing to play a big part in who they are. So, I think there are numerous people in the NFL that would disagree with you.

I might say that now; however, if you looked at Belichick's record at the same point as McDermott's, where Belichick had five fewer wins, you might say McDermott did.

He certainly was describing what he was watching; however, I am not sure if his overall assessments were strictly from the eyeball test or if he also takes into account statistical breakdowns as well. Regardless, there is a place for the eyeball test in evaluations, and even though it can be swayed by personal biases, it does not necessarily mean that it always is. Based on what I have observed of the QBs he mentioned, as well as a look at where they stand statistically, it seems like a pretty fair, objective take on each. Of course, I haven't broken down every play of every QB. Right now, I would place Allen and Jackson at the top of that list They both have a long way to go; however, I think both are improving. Whether or not either turns into a franchise caliber QB remains to be seen. I think if both are able to remain in the same offensive systems next year, we should have a pretty good indication.

"Crappy" or "Awful" people come from all walks of life. And for those that come from religious perspectives, it is not their religious beliefs that make them awful people. They are awful people who distort their religious beliefs to fit their own psychology.