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Well that is the reason for the mention of Kromer . He won a SB with the Saints under Sean Peyton and had Drew Breeze as his QB so he saw how to build a offense first hand and he was the O line coach so I'm just throwing it out there but every. one wants to burn down the entire thing so I'm in the minority . Not to mention his time in LA with Stafford he may not have won a SB there but he was part of a really good team so he's got some good chops !! It was just a thought .

Oh I agree Josh is our guy with out a doubt but given what he did last year then the supposed "Upgrade" at the WR position it just seemed as this was going to be a better year and that last year wasn't just a fluke so my thing with him getting married and the other distractions were just a thought . There is also a lot to be said about chemistry between the QB and the WR's & others ! I think Knox has proven that if targeted more he is a weapon, he was before Kincaid got here & Brady seems to forget about him and focus to much on Kincaid a lot use them all to their strengths he has the weapons I think Shavers is under utilized in the Red zone too ! I also thought that if Cooper had more time to work with Josh that with his experience in route running they could have made a bit of noise, in one season he put a all time Bills classic play on tape with the throw back to Josh can you imagine if the trust factor would have had a chance to grow . I also think if they asked Cooper now to come out of retirement that he would but that too is to little to late and a topic for anther conversation !! But I now do believe that the players that were suppose to be all that aren't or the chemistry between them and Josh is just wrong or not there like it was with Hollins and others last season . Don't know the answer it's all speculation with me I'm just a fan !! Sorry for the rant .

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Well bring him back to B/lo !!

In some parts I agree but I have seen replay's from games that Josh has had Samuel running WIDE OPEN and chose to go else where or didn't see him and that is what I feel the distraction is for him . because he was seeing all of it last year but between getting married and all of the other commercials and such I think he is not as focused and the message plus history may be lying heavy on his performance . Just a thought no proof but IMHO IT COULD have something to do with it ????

Okay we've all heard the complaints of how changes need to be made and how many here want to have McD's and Beans head on a platter and up until this point I have been one of those people that has always said stay to the course and this guy can & will get it done but my mind has had a bit of a change of heart . Although I think we all can agree McD is a great human being, has a great football mind when it comes to certain parts of the game, and has lead this team out of the doldrums of mediocrity to become a perennial play off team, but after this game a game they should have won easily even with the injuries I'm very perplexed and think change could be a good thing . That being said I don't believe they should blow up EVERYTHING or clean house moving forward but make a big enough move to show the rest of the organization that mediocrity is not executable going forward . I have often asked all the haters here just WHO would they put in place of McD if they had a chance to make a change and never really got a good answer from any of them but if history tells us anything I think it may be better that they give a promotion from with in . We all remember the Bally who that was when Rex got hired right ? The Bills had a GREAT D coordinator with Schwartz at the helm and they fired then coach Saint Doug & Pegs thought that by bringing in a HC that had been there was better for the team but Rex Blew up most everything and Schwartz saw the writing on the wall so he bolted then we all know what happened Rex went from a D of 4/3 players and tried to pigeon hole them into a 3/4 D which went straight to hell in a couple of years . So all that being said I have made my decision that something needs to be changed but I would like to see a promotion from with in, a Super Bowl winning coach that would keep a lot of the stability on the team and is more offensive minded that I think has paid his dues and is still young enough to make this team better is Aaron Kromer . The guy has the chops, the resume, the experience of it all and has been to the Mountain top but if I am correct has never been given a chance to be "The Man'' or a HC in the NFL . Stability would be there, I think his input with Beane could be of great help in the drafting offensive & defensive players, and it would be a shake up the franchise to let everyone know to S**T or get off the pot . He could bring in some very competent coaches that he may have worked with or likes their offensive play calling and felt he could work with to improve the offense along with his experience & input . I just wonder what ya'll might think of this kind of move I just don't think blowing up everything is the way to go and with Kroger's knowledge not only of the game but the other coaches he has worked with over his time in the league this might be a really good move IF there is that possibility . What say you ??

ME TOO !! I try to be that guy and have been a staunch supporter of McD & Beane but when is enough enough ? I hate it but I think a change might reinvigorate the team I feel they are getting tired of the same old "Process Talk" and I know the fans are ...

Not really sure ! I've seen in recent replays from games that there are WR's open down field but Josh ain't seeing them or wants to go for the big one and then leaves the pocket to make a better results and nothing becomes of it so I think a lot falls on both of them ! They have 3 very capable TE's, a couple of very fast WR's that could be used to take the top off the D, & a stable of RB's that are more than capable of moving the chains and scoring points, & a O line that has been pretty dam good at opening holes for those backs and allowing Josh the time he needs to make plays from the pocket . I hope that coaches like Kromer doesn't decide to jump ship he's 1 of if not the best in the game and has made a difference, Hell give him the HC ing position he's paid his dues and knows the game but has never been in that position so maybe if it is time for a change there is a guy that could keep some semblance of stability and knows the players that could have some really good ideas as to how to move forward with the weapons he has and he's a offensive guy .

Which a tight end heavy offense is wha the Bills have . They have a great pass catching TE in Kincaid, A great Blocking TE in Hawes , And a great TE in Knox that can do both block and catch passes but how often are they utilized correctly ? And that falls on the OC and his scheme . The Bills have the weapons and the game against the Fins are games they are suppose to win with what weapons they have on hand . Sure there were starters out but this offense has put up a hell of a lot more than 16 points before so where did it go wrong ? I didn't see any of the game and that might be a good thing because right now I don't need anything else to help to influence my drinking heavily but I think a lot of the pieces or the biggest part of those pieces are in place it's just using them to their full potential or to their strengths and from what I can see it's not happening . I have been a huge proponent of allowing McD to stay on but there have been other coaches that have done really well and been let go because they couldn't get a team over the top . I was just reminded by a friend that Dan Reeves in Denver was that way but was released then to go on to bigger and better things . That being said if by chance the Bills don't make the play offs which if they continue to play like this I'd be willing to jump on the wagon in saying it's time for a change at the HCing position I would still keep Beane because with a different HC's input I think he could get better players to do the job so I'm not about completely blowing ups everything to get it done but sometimes change is a good thing !!

I think Josh's mind is more on getting home for some playing time than the playing time on the field ! Is it a coincidence that last year was a MVP season and all of the sudden he is playing like crap more so than not ? Bass went through the same thing and is still going through it . In the NFL you have other be labor focused to be last years version of Josh, no distractions what so ever and I don't know that he has figured out how to differentiate between the 2 .

I think in a lot of ways it's the players . They got rid of some they never should have like Hollins he brought the emotion and still is in N.E. Which is something sorely missing in this team and I feel is why they were that much better last season ! t at times look as if they are just going through the motions . Then when Hochet went down sad !!

If the injuries continue the way they have then yes you can kiss any shot at the play offs good by ! With the way the Pats are playing they will win the division this season and if the Bills get lucky they will be the second seed unless they play as bad as they did today then call it in .

After today they will definitely be fighting for a Wild card spot !!

They do need guys that do more than the periodic flash with a decent catch every once and again .

And it worked .

That one definitely hurt more because of how close they were and how it unfolded but at least they played well in that one all but a couple of the last plays . From what I've heard they never even show'd up for this one - NO BODY . I would think that with Shakir, Knox, Coleman, Shavers they could come up with something more than what they put out there today . After that game last week to go to this I was blown away even with all of the injuries they still should have show'd a lot better .

They definitely are not getting a good return for their money !!

Agree I wanted to get up to go to 1 more game at the Ralph but it doesn't look as if I'll be able to make it this season there is still a slight chance but I know I don't want to sit through any more games in the snow I'm to dam old for that !! But you nailed it & Kelsey is right, Buffalo is a special place and that area will always be home no matter where I lay my head !! I just hope that they can bring a championship to this stadium that has given all of us so many great memories in the past she needs to be given a proper closing ceremony handing the Lombardi around to the player old and new in that stadium . GO BILLS !!!

I believe in certain instances the scheme is what is coming up short and in part from what you said there are really good players not being utilized within the scheme sometimes almost forgotten for periods of games . I hope Brady can use ALL OF the weapons he has at his disposal that would be a really good thing !

DOn't know of him but looks good to me and I hope he can bring a little something to the show !!

He definitely brought some juice to the unit while he was on the field I hate that his season was so short I do hope that he comes to every game through out ihis rehab and pumps the team up In certain situations when they need it which is a lot ... They were missing that type of energy till he came back on the field ...

Browny & Tasker have siad John has always been at most games and sits in the booth behind him and Eric on game day .

After losing Hoecht and the rest that have been sent to IR this season there's a.lot of cap money just sitting idle and they have to bring in more people just to fill the gaps so I would imagine they need the space monetarily to do that, I hope they can get a hidden gem to fill in !!

Well at least most of them with little to no common sense any way .

Agree if you're gonna swing, swing for the fences they did it with Von why not someone like Simmons !! Is there anyone else out there about the same a Hoecht is kind of a all around type of guy that they can use in different ways with in the scheme of the D ??