Not at the table Karlos

What if peppers doesnt want to restructure? What if he doesnt want to be in chicago? Theres a bunch of things that could be going on.

couldnt explain it any better

IF he didnt whiff on them as well.

ask J. Maclin and D. Jackson how an inaccurate qb fit their strengths. I didnt sit and look up stats that fit my argument I picked a round number and already knew it was better than anything we trotted out. So if you would like I could use his whole career which is still better than buffalos qbs during the last 14 years. Or I could argue like you and pick and choose my spots to try and make my argument look better instead of looking at the whole picture. Michael vick has had more success in his career than any bills quarterback in the same time frame. Also vick is not 0-2 in the playoffs. He is 2-3... now you can reply with oh bledsoe had this one good throw to peerless in this game and jp threw two 83 yard bombs in that game. And trent had a good throw to reed in the redskins game.and those 4 throws were better than mike vick during 30 seconds of this game and a quarter of that game.... I would also tend to agree with adrian peterson and the former players that say vick is better than a lot of whats out there. If you dont like vick as a person good for you dont like him. This isnt about him as a person. This is about trying to get better and make the playoffs. Is vick the most accurate qb? No. Is he the smartest? No? Does he get injured? Yes. Is his career record better than buffalos record during his career? Yes. Has he made the playoffs? Yes. Has he won playoff games? Yes.

Agreed.

This is funny. They call my uncle buffalo billy and he works at the airport in hawaii.

when I saw the stats c biscuit posted I re thought about the game. I agree with your assessment of the scripted plays. That may have skewed my thinking about the whole game. Also remember he threw a **** load of ducks. This was the game where graham "fumbled" right after catching the ball and it was ran back for a td and a few plays later goodwin makes and amazing catch and rolls has control for longer than graham did and they call it incomplete, right? Holy run on sentence

wow didnt realize the stats were that bad. We kick a field goal instead of that pick 6 we win.

EJ and vick play a different game. Vick seems to try to make more plays while ej plays more cautious. I cant find his stats right now. I agree with you on tuel and the chiefs game. Definitely cant blame a receiver for absolutely making a fool out of the CB and having him luck into a pick 6. That was a bad throw by tuel. I hated mcshay for the slow eyes comment until I watched ejs college games and this past season now I 100% agree with it. I hope he fixes that though.

what is the bills playoff record the last 10 years? Is vick like god in madden 04 or something? This year is the first madden I have bought since ps2 came out so 01. I never said anywhere that vick is this amazing player. I said he fits our personnel with our speedy receivers. He has a better record than anybody we have had in years and he has made the playoffs as a starter more than any of our Qbs have since 98. Our current QBs have what 4 years of experiance between the 3 of them? Vick has what 10? I love how everyone picks and chooses little things here and there to prove their argument. I say in 10 years vick has done this and this guy or girl(because this is how every women I have ever known argues) says in the last 9 years he did this. !@#$ yeah I would rather have vicks career playoff numbers over the 0-0 we have had. Also other than the pick 6 in the chiefs game tuel played a good game but as I can see the majority of the people here only look at what they want to see and when someone says something different they resort to childish name calling. Internet tough guys(or girls) EDIT: changed great game to good

great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. Cant grasp ideas or events I see

tuel was also a rookie and and was able to run the full offense as an udfa. Yes they had to dumb down the offence for ej tuel was also a rookie and and was able to run the full offense as an udfa. Yes they had to dumb down the offence for ej. Thad was traded for a week before the season started and also had no problem running the full offence. Stop trying to make excuses.

hopefully we wouldnt have to dumb down the offence for ej again. And jacksonville had three African american qbs with I want to say leftwich, garrard, and I think quinn was the third. we already built our offence around a guy that cant hit open receivers, cant read a defense, and generally struggles to throw the ball over 5 yards. Vick has won more games and made the playoffs more than any bills quarterback in the last 10 years. So how is vick not a fit for the mess we have on offense? And no where did I say he would definitely be the starter. We need a quarterback and should sign or draft one every chance we get until we find one that can win. Open competition let the best man win. The fact still remains vick has a better winning percentage and has won more playoff games than anything we have tried at qb no matter what your feelings are about him as a person.

So did I. Was very confused why someone would think it would be a good idea to convert a rb to safety

The sword thats holding the flag is right next to the facemask and the flag goes back. Its going the correct way. Other than that I agree. I definitely feel bad for their fans. My friend is a fan and he is very disappointed

So which of our qbs is better than him? The point is to get better. Injuries are a part of the game and happen to everybody. Eric wood was considered brittle would you not have re-signed him? You get the best players you can and put them on the field. Not play scared and worry about a possible injury. With a decent qb the bills are a playoff team. Its funny that people dont want the bills to try to get better.

name one qb on the roster that is better than vick. Ej is horribly inaccurate. Has maybe once in his entire football playing life hit a receiver in stride. His deep ball is crap and very over rated. He misses open receivers constantly in both college and the pros. Thad is horribly inaccurate. Fumbles more than vick. Has trouble reading defenses. Then you have tuel and dixon... So name me a bills qb in the last 10 years thats better than vick.

Hes better than any qb we have on the roster. I would take him in a heartbeat. He should habe been a Bill whem he got out of jail. He is the perfect qb for our offence and the climate. Goodwin and grahams talents wouldnt be wasted anymore.

Looks like someone threw up on an alarm clock I like Jacksonville's jerseys as well

Wtf were they thinking? That is horrible

I believe he leads the defence in horribly ill timed penalties on third down. Lol I really like AW and his reckless playing style. I think he will be a good safety for years to come.

Im 27 and I feel im right at the line where people stopped standing up for themselves and started to feel bad about themselves.

omg when did we become a society of pussys. Martin needs to grow a pair. All this bullying nonsense wouldnt be an issue if everyone wasnt coddled and actually had some self esteem and confidence. A hero.... lmfao.

Idk what happened to my post but I want McCarron. I want a WR, TE and QB out of the first three rounds. Unless mack is there at 9.

Comparing the intelligence of Vince Young to a potato is an insult to the potato