Not at the table Karlos

You do understand people can regress, right? Rex Ryan used to have elite defenses, Dick jauron had a good defense In Chicago. Should be bring them back too

We have been blitzing a lot. Our players aren’t very good at it so they just end up stuck at the line. We’ve blitzed from pretty much every position on the field.

Is it the guy getting the players or the guys developing the players? Also Ed has outperformed Quinnen Williams.

Unless you’re Marcus Mariota

The blue line is slightly off but still looks like he was past LOS

It’s been ridiculous for years and the people with the blinders on are the ones that have been defending the refs. There was an obvious face mask we got away with so it did go both ways. Because for whatever reason the OL doesn’t put their hand out and touch them. WRs too. We do all these hard counts but don’t react when they jump. It’s maddening. Against Miami we were getting them to jump a lot even their corners but our guys just stood there. The time they do react Williams jumps up and takes a false start. Just stick your hand up, if they don’t get called for neutral zone infraction you just act like you’re calling out blocking assignments

I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall

I’m saying Allen is to blame for not throwing it to Beasley when he’s open. One play he looked at him for a while and didn’t throw it. Do you think daboll tells Allen he has to throw it to Diggs even if he’s triple covered and just ignore the wide open receiver? No, you go through your reads and find the open man. Edit- Misread

Where did I say it defined his day? You were blaming daboll for not getting Beasley involved in the first half. I pointed out a couple plays where Beasley was open, Josh looked at him and forced it to Diggs.

Leveon needs elite run blocking for his running style. He wouldn’t do much better than what we have

We need to stop running out of the same formation and we need to run block a lot better. Changing up the formation we run out of should help run blocking because the defenders won’t be selling out to stop the run

Those two or three passes killed drives and on those two or three passes he had an open receiver, one of them Beasley where he was looking right at him and chose to throw it into triple coverage. That’s on Josh not Daboll. Daboll did his job scheming a receiver open and starting joshs read there.

Josh had enough time and the open WR was on the side of field he was reading for at least two of the forced passes.

Our passing offense took a hit because Allen wasn’t finding the open man and taking what defense gives him. There was a few times in first half where Allen was forcing balls to covered receivers instead of taking the easy throw to a wide open one. Allen played like 2019 Josh.

If Beasley is open and Josh forces a ball to a double/triple covered receiver is that on Josh or Daboll?

Why weren’t they coached not to do those things. They’ve been in the defense for years. I think they know where to line up. We’ve been beat on third and long a lot. Teams figured the defense out. Buffalo716 broke that down earlier in the thread. If the offfense knows what’s gonna be called and we call it, wouldn’t that make it a bad play call?

There was a few times in the first half where Beasley or Davis were wide open and Allen forced it to a double or triple covered Diggs. I think that’s more on Allen needing to through his reads and finding the open guy than the game plan.

Tre hasn’t been himself this year either. He’s been getting beat since camp

No need to make stuff up

I don’t really know how to reply to this lol. All I said was Hughes gets held which is obvious. Does AJs one good play erase all the bad? We rotate lineman. They all play. None of them are doing much at the moment.

Are we running the same scheme as the last few years? Seems like we’re playing a lot more man. The defense overall just looks lost and are thinking way too much. If it was just a couple players ok but it’s all of them. We haven’t had any answers for it in 5 games.

If we’re being fair you have to bring up that he is constantly held with no calls

I’ve always been on the fence about this defense. I don’t think the talent is “elite” but they play well as a unit within the scheme. It looks like they changed a couple things and then injuries forced them to change them some more and it’s just not working. We seem to play man a lot but we don’t really have many man players besides Johnson and he’s been bad too. Individually we aren’t playing well and that’s been since training camp. Tre white was getting beat a lot in camp and it’s carried over to the regular season. The entire defense regressed and I would have to put that on coaching

He played like last year. The touch was gone, missing wide open receivers, forcing the ball into coverage, not taking what defense gives you. Good thing is we usually learn from our mistakes and fix them. Especially after a bad loss like this. Hopefully the defense can get to below average or even average and we should be fine

Titans moved early but whatever