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Sure would be nice to build for the long haul with two picks in the second round and 2 in the 3rd instead of 1 tonight.

Took some stones getting right in their face didn't it? I loved it.

No Allen's play is dividing the fanbase. It's not like we just sat around and just read a couple paragraphs on this guy, a lot of us watched him as well as studied all the quarterbacks. It's clear that this kid is a project. He feels like another in a long line of Bills' quarterbacks that had big arms, high upside, and didn't work out. Rob Johnson, JP losman, EJ Manuel, so don't expect us to jump and cheer at another project, sorry.

I don't think so. I think next year Is going to be a tough year for this team. And I think our draft positions going to be much lower than this year. So you don't want to give up those picks. But man look at the talent coming off the board right now we sure could use it.

Going to be a long night watching all this talent come off the board and thinking of all the holes we have.

Jeez, didn't know you run the board now. Maybe you worry about your own posts.

At the end of the day I'm with you. I'm just really, really disappointed about last night. I'm tired of our history of strong-armed quarterbacks with high ceilings who can't process. Rob Johnson, JP losman, EJ Manuel, I just wish for once we get a guy who can actually read a defense, make a protection call, and throw from the pocket accurately. Instead we got another project with a high ceiling. I mean I hope the guy is good, I'll eat crow with relish if it does happen. I just wish for once we had a guy that could play from the get-go.

Where is the Wyoming - Oregon game when you need it? 9 of 24 for 64 yards in a pick. That's what he did against a good defense and not the lame conference teams he was playing.

Unfortunately, there's no choice but to live with this pick. My new hobby is going to be looking at quarterbacks in the 2020 draft. That should be about the time AJ's up and we need one.

It will pass. i hope the kid is good and I can eat crow - with relish if so. I watched a few of his games, and it just wasn't pretty. Great scrambler but shaky on any exotic defensive looks. After EJ, Losman and Rob Johnson, I'm tired of strong armed, high ceiling projects. I just wanted a QB who can make read a defense, climb the pocket and make the throws, accurately. I just don't see this kid doing that. Is what it is. I really am disappointed today.

Or he could end up like my namesake on this board.

Yeah those two in the 5th, and 6th and 7th rounders should really solidify this team. Hope so too. Last night was the most disappointed I've been in a draft since I've followed the team in 1963. And I have seen many disappointing Bills' drafts.

I thought so until last night.

TP laid the smack down and wanted a long term project because he may be inaccurate, but at least he was inaccurate playing in snow.

That viewership is going to drop precipitously tonight. Nothing to watch until late at night for us.

Same here. In fact with all the build-up, all the moves, and all the excitement last night was soul crushing.

And seldom do their slow eyes pick up game speed processing abilities. Losman and EJ had high ceilings as well. Here's an idea, let's pick a quarterback who actually has a record of accuracy, reading defenses and making the right decisions instead of physical specimens who are long range projects.

Yep, and we just did it again. What could go wrong?

Sweet Jesus I can only hope.

I've had a lot of faith over the years my friend. What really bothers me, even though I'm older, I do put a lot of faith in metrics. For example when blitzed, Baker Mayfield's quarterback ranking actually went up. Rosen's dropped about 10%. Josh Allen? When blitzed his quarterback ranking drops by 50%. I think NFL DCs will eat him alive. I don't know if you can teach processing at this level. Remember the "slow eyes"of EJ Manuel? He never could overcome it and we got to hope that Allen does.

I hope you're right. I will be thrilled and happy to eat crow. But my gut is telling me this kid is going to crash and burn. He just doesn't have the processing skills and decision-making a modern NFL quarterback needs.

Yeah? I did and responded. Look, let's follow this team since 1963. I've seen this team bungle quarterback decisions for decades and decades. I thought this crew was going to be better and I'm highly disappointed in what they did last night. To me it feels like EJ all over again. They even use the same language to describe Allen as they did EJ back then -- even though it wasn't the same people. It's still the same rhetoric. I've watched this movie before. We burned a bunch of pics on a guy who's a long-term project. Sorry I'm utterly disappointed. There's not one review I've read of Allen, positive or negative, that even says he has a shot at being a starting quarterback in the near future. Most say he's got to learn the position. I was never more excited for a draft than I was for this one. I thought we had a front office under Brandon Beane, that was going to really put us on the right track for the first time in decades. I got to believe it was the owner who pulled the trigger on this.

Think a little bigger than that my friend. They weren't the same people but they were paid experts who do it for a living. That was the point. So come on.

I agree with you on Edmunds. What makes it hurtful is that we gave up the third round pick, the first pick in the third round after losing our entire second round. The mid rounds of this draft for supposed to be so strong and we're going to have to sit and watch the competition getting younger, faster and better. I just don't see the value in a long-term project like Josh Allen.

The people who do this for a living also pick Maybin over Orakpo. Also picked Wittner over Ngata. They also picked EJ Manuel. And now they just picked the guy who is woefully inaccurate, has trouble reading defenses, who critics say has to learn to play quarterback in the NFL, and when he's blitzed his quarterback rating reduces by half. So yeah I'm not on board.