Green Lightning

Before the chorus of "trade down" and pick Jordan and not Dareus begins, remember, it takes two to trade down. I'll be happy with an impacdt player in the first round, period. At this point, anything but and undersized LB!

That's just stupid talk. He's the frickin' owner. Like him or not, he kept the Bills in town and I'm happy for it. I'm also happy Nix is making the calls. Nobody bats 1,000, not even "genius" Belichek. I like our last draft and looking forward to next year. If Buddy says Modrak was'nt the problem, I'm going with that. DJ made the Maybin call and not Nix. Either you have faith in Nix or you don't. I do, you don't. We'll see.

It's hard to be wrong on TSW.

Not at all. I went to plenty of practices at SJF and Trent looked great. Made the throws and had great accuracy. Then put him in a game and he's puking up and glassy eyed. Kudos to Chan for cutting his losses. He thought by coaching up TE he would come around. Didn't happen and he pulled the plug. I'm fine with it.

He's gotta be doing that to throw people off. Vonn Miller would be a disaster pick. Maybin + MIller = one LB. Buddy says get big!!!!!

Brohm's done. I think Brown deserves a better look. Has size, arm and needs some game reps to see if he's got the smarts and instincts. So to answer the OP, we really don't know.

Thanks San Jose and Thoner. Great read. These numbers and notes are helpful. As Buddy just said, we need to get bigger and stronger. No more little fast guys who get pushed all over the field. I's saving both lists, thanks.

This nails it. He's not a football player, he's a physical speciman, but not a baller. Wish it were otherwise. Maybe Jauron will want him.....

The only big name FA I'd love the Bills to chase is David Harris. He'd be a monster addition. Mid range pick ups after that are fine as we are building via draft.

I don't know about you guys but I loved the way Buddy just lays it out there. Wood to Center. Stick with Bell. Get bigger at LB and pick an impact guy BPA at #3. He just puts it out there and I find it damn comforting and refreshing. Loved when Mark asked where Wood playing center puts Hanny. "We play the best guys.." Gotta love the guy. I am a bit concerned about RT. I agree that his PS and FA pick ups of Wrotto, Pears, Reinhart and Urbik were excellent and at the very least will give us good depth. I don't know if they will be the answer at guard with Wood moving and RT.....I'd fee better with a FA or solid pick in the draft.

I don't see that happening at all. We burned high picks on Troup and Carrington. Troup will play NT, KW at DE and Darius as a 5 technique with Carrington in for plenty of snaps and in a four man front. The FA focus will and should be on LB's. Soliai is a luxury. Get me David Harris instead.

If Poz is one of our top five players we are in deep sh*t.

I was just about ready to congratulate the thread for no one saying "hey, let's move Bell to RT!" but no, you had to go and do it. What part about the difference between LT and RT don't you get? Bell is not now, or weil ever be a RT! They are two eff'ing different positions that require different skill sets. Jesus watch some football before saying crap like that.

Is this Dick Jauron?

Im with Bangarang. How many undersized but fast tweeners do we want on our LB corps? The guy's the size of Keith Ellison...move on.

Rather have Harris than Mankins. Go at him hard.

Lovie's complete mishandling of the 4th down play was Pop Warner class. Raw QB with a 4th down and clock running and he sits on a TO instead of using it to calm the kid and team down. As for Cutler, if your going to stand and watch with a sprained MCL, hobble over and help your QB and cheer the team on. Cutler's a punk.

He threw a TD Moulds.

Your pining for the Donahoe - Levy - Brandon GM days? Were you living under a rock the past decade? The teams, talent, coaches and FO sucked. Some good individuals in each area but overall SUCK! You do what you want but I'm looking forward not back.

Ahhh, logic and reasoned thought. What exactly you hope to accomplish with that on TSW is anyone's guess.

Stupid draft experts...the last thing we need is another tweener with a great first step...... Pick Dareus and get a stud 5 technique DLman and let's start pounding on some OL's. Dareus, Troup, KW in a 3-4 with Edwards and Carrington in rotation or in a hybrid 4-3 is a nice place to build from. Then let's talk LB's.

Why? This guy's a great defensive coach and at last check, our D blows. This is a good thing.

True, but it's year one of a scheme change. We didn't have the right talent but at least we didn't get pushed around like boys playing men like Jauron's D did every 4th quarter. I hated that small fast crap and if you are waxing nostalgic you should be loving Cleveland this year.

Hey, the OP did some solid work here and I for one don't buy into the "no decent FA will come here" arguement. It is likely KC would never let Hali get away but stranger things have happened. I do agree with the basic premise of the OP's thinking. Go big on DL with the number one pick but concentrate on the LB's after that. Our DL with (Fairley - Darius - Bowers) Troup, Carrington, KW, Edwards and some key back ups should develop nicely. Brady won't be frightened at first but as they develop, watch out. Our LB's are awful and that's where we need to shop and draft well.

I can't figure it. Is he going to flip to a 4-3 tampon-two with little guys getting their butts pushed all over the field by the Steelers and Ravens? Maybe he can take Kelsay, Poz and Leodis with him. What part of "suck" don't the Browns get?